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Posted 05/12/2011   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i wonder what happened to SFGoda another good contributor gone ???
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Posted 05/12/2011   11:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Postage used?

Interesting question.

I have seen mixed solutions to your question.
I have known of mail going through Suez
to be unloaded at Port Tewfik, cancelled then reloaded
on differing vessels for ports north and south.

I think generally the mail is franked with the
postage being carried by that particular vessel
I have not seen an article that addresses paquebot
and it remains one of the interesting unknowns for me.
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Posted 05/13/2011   01:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Plateflaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The UPU Letter Post Manual details the current correct treatment of postal articles mailed aboard ships on the high seas. This should answer questions as to whose stamps and what rate applies -


Quote:
Article RL 119
Prepayment and stamping of items posted on board ship
1 Items posted on board ship at the two terminal points of the voyage or at any intermediate port of call shall be prepaid by means of postage stamps and according to the rates of the country in whose waters the ship is lying.
2 If the items are posted on board on the high seas, they may be prepaid, in the absence of special agreement between the designated operators concerned, by means of the postage stamps and according to the rates of the country to which the ship appertains or is under contract. Items prepaid in this way must be handed over to the post office at the port of call as soon as possible after the arrival of the ship.
3 The stamping of items posted on ships shall be the responsibility of the postal official or the officer on board charged with the duty, or, failing those, of the post office at the port of call at which these items are handed over. In that case, the office shall impress the correspondence with its date-stamp and add the word "Navire", "Paquebot" or any other similar note.

#57454; Commentary
119.2 An application of maritime practice according to which any ship on the high seas is "part of the territory" of the country whose flag it flies.

The country issuing the postage stamps is considered as the country of origin, even when the stamps, having been affixed on the high seas, are cancelled at the next port with the date-stamp of another country.
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Posted 05/13/2011   01:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Plateflaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A very useful book for helping work out Paquebot markings is Roger Hosking's Paquebot Cancellations of the World, published by the author in 1977. I think there may be a later edition, or at least an addendum, with more cancels. As it is, the first edition has 190 pages with 100's of illustrations and rarity ratings.



I can highly recommend the book. If anyone wants lookups, just post a picture on this thread.
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Posted 05/13/2011   06:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Plateflaw,
another query solved.
A nice publication for the SCF Library,

and a super Queensland cover.

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Posted 05/13/2011   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great information to fill my "Paquebot" knowledge void. I knew very little about this subject before this thread. Thanks.
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