Englis Stamp With Picture Of A Queen Worht 11 Pence

this stamp has a pic of a queen worth 11 pence with at dragon like emblem at the top left. Does anyone know anything about this stamp?

This was issued in Wales but can be used anywhere in the UK.

Interesting post,
illustrated my confusion over the verbiage "pence"
In my mind, Wales did not produce a 11 pence stamp,
see, I refer to decimal currency as "P"

Nice clean scan Rodney, but shame on you for saying "pee" instead of "pence"! I know I've lost this battle but it still seems a pity...

Again, I broadcast my ignorance Nigel,
there is a battle?
So the correct reference is pence then?
If that be the case, then I shall use it henceforth.
After all, I am British and we like things right :)

Added details which we all love so much:
From: http://thesaurus.maths.org/mmkb/ent...ById&id=3346



Notice that on Rod's newer shown stamp the currency is shown as P and on this older stamp it is shown as D. This is because of the change from the British older pre-decimal system to the British decimal system now in use.

D stood/stands for denarius (Roman or Latin for silver penny) (plural denarii)

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sterling



Fascinating but confusing to one brought up in a dollars and cents system.

I think it must be something like still thinking in the pounds and ounces and feet and miles system and then changing over to the more universal Metric weight system. Even now, years after Canada has changed over, I still think in pounds and ounces and feet and miles but can muddle through grams and kilograms and meteres (meters) and kilometres. Kind of.

I do love Roman history though! By the great pumpkin, I think that would be a good topic for thematic collecting - Roman history. I was just starting off with aqueducts but why stop there?

We do indeed Rodney!

However, as I said, I have to accept that I've lost this battle and most folk won't think there's been a battle at all.

People here say "pee" all the time. In the shops I'm told things like "That will be 65 pee".

It's all the fault of the public information campaign back in 1971 (when I was 10 going on 11) which told everyone on TV every night that a shilling was now "five pee" (and so on).

Just to add another twist...
As the stamp was issued in 1976, five years after currency decimalisation, it may still have been considered to have been denominated in "new pence". Post decimalisation coins were inscribed "new pence" to differentiate those from the £/s/d period. I'm not sure when the "new" tag was officially dropped.

Ah Puzzler, a good old elevenpenny stamp! The 11d plum.

I was taught in primary school (ages 5 to 11) to count in old money (three columns: pounds, shillings and pence) but all the measurements were taught in metric units and we still haven't gone fully metric forty years later!

Science and industry converted here many years ago, but on road signs distances and speeds are still in miles and miles per hour, people's height is still measured in feet and inches and people's weight in stones and pounds.

Hello Anglez (is that where you live?)

You're right, the decimal coins were inscribed "New Pence" from 1971 to 1981. Coins from 1982 onwards haven't had the word "New".

As you mentioned you have to catch them while young and even then, if the catcher was ill informed, the caught are often taught a wrong thing and the cycle starts again on a new note.

That is nice to know about the mixture of different systems. As long as everyone that matters is on the same page it all works out.

I remember having a rousing conversation years ago with a fellow from Newfoundland about how many ounces was in a pint and gallon and it turned out we were both right as there were at times three different systems is use in the Maritime provinces here in Canada. The Imperial (UK), the US liquid and the US dry weight gallon. And now the metric litre. I like to spell it the French way so that is another confusion.

Here's a good opportunity to clear something up that I've always wondered. And perhaps as a citizen in Her Majesties Commonwealth I should know this but, I don't.
On the older stamps, using the 'd' currency (thankyou for the history lesson Puzzler, that is fascinating to know), is 'd' spoken as 'p' (to use Rodney's parlance) or do you say "11 dee"?
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I would say these old values the traditional way: ha'p'ny, penny, tuppence, thruppence, fourpence, fivepence, sixpence, ...

as in "penny black", and definitely not "one dee black" ,

and "tuppence blue" or "tuppenny blue" or "two pence blue".

Pronouncing:
More Roman and even Germanic language usage in jolly olde England comes into play. I refer you to the Wikipedia article on the currency:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%A3sd







. . . but I am Canadian and have not any idea how the actual languge was used variously in Great Britain, as we deviated quite early on to cents and dollars.

so I guess it is not worth much? Where do you look to find stamp values that is the best website?