Englis Stamp With Picture Of A Queen Worht 11 Pence

Hmmm, some are selling one stamp on ebay for 99p plus shipping.

On Delcampe the same stamp is selling (listed for) for 20p to 28p plus shipping (varies).

I hear that Stanley Gibbon's catalogue prices are somewhat inflated. (online and off the same)

These prices are for Mint Never Hinged MNH stamps.

Of course these prices also reflect a stamp in great condition (read the front pages of a catalogue to learn more about grading and condition and what affects it).

Hi Nigelc,
Yes I am from near to Birmingham (West Midlands UK, not Alabama USA). Anglez is Slovene for "Englishman"
On the matter of coinage terminology, there are also the common slang terms of a "joey" (silver 3d) a "tanner" (6d); a "bob" (one shilling); a "florin" (for two shillings); a "half crown" or "half dollar" (2 shillings and sixpence) and a "dollar" for five shillings.
The dollar and half dollar terms were used because I think the pre WW2 currency exchange was $4.00US to the £1.00GB.

Hi Anglez, My guess was wrong, I thought maybe you were from the island of Anglesey in Wales!

I don't believe "joey" was used for a thruppeny bit but I remember "three bob" for three shillings etc. and "tanner". "Half a dollar" for a half-crown was already out of date as slang when I was young and I never heard anyone say "dollar" because crowns weren't in circulation (although it might still have been used in betting like "pony" (£25), "monkey" (£500) etc.) You're right about the derivation, my Dad could remember when it was four dollars to the pound but "florin" wasn't slang - it was the name of the coin.

The one that always baffled me when reading my Dickens books was the guinea - 1 pound 1 shilling (now 1 pound 5 pence). What a screwy denomination. Worse still, half a guinea! And the hundredweight, equal in weight to 112 pounds. Except in the olden days, when it was 108 pounds. Yeesh!

Ryan

Nigelc, a silver "thruppenny bit" was definately called a "joey" by my father in law (I refer to the 3d coin before the ten? sided brass version). He used to keep a small supply that found their way into plum puddings at Christmas time!
Ryan, I think the "guinea" originates from the gold coins that were minted by the treasury (on behalf of the King & Queen) to trade for African slaves in the 16th/17th century. The west coast of Africa known as Guinea where the slaves were loaded for transportation to the Americas. Not a particularly nice heritage!

With respect Angelz,
the Guinea name, I think was called from the country
where the gold was mined.
Slavery was not involved directly with the naming of the coin,
but was no doubt involved in its consumption.

wiki:
The guinea is a coin that was minted in the Kingdom of England and later in the Kingdom of Great Britain and the United Kingdom between 1663 and 1813.[1] It was the first English machine-struck gold coin, originally worth one pound sterling,[1] equal to twenty shillings; but rises in the price of gold caused the value of the guinea to increase, at times to as high as thirty shillings; from 1717 till 1816, its value was officially fixed at twenty-one shillings. Following that, Great Britain adopted the gold standard and guinea became a colloquial term.

The name came from the Guinea region in West Africa, where much of the gold used to make the coins originated.[2] Although no longer circulated, the term guinea survives in some circles, notably horse racing,[1] and in the sale of rams, to mean an amount of one pound and one shilling (21 shillings) or one pound and five pence in decimalised currency. The name also forms the basis for the Arabic word for the Egyptian pound ÇáÌäíå el-Gineih, as a sum of 100 qurush (i.e., one pound) was worth approximately 21 shillings at the end of the 19th century.

You are quite right rod, my apologies for the misconception.
The naming of the coin is not directly linked to the slave trade, but as you say it was as a result of much of the gold used in the coins originating from this part of Africa.
There are however numerous references to its involvement in slavery, and I offer this quoate from a recent book "World of a Slave - Encyclopaedia of the Material Life of Slaves in the United States" by Martha B Katz - Hyman and Kym S Rice.
"..the coins were so named because much of the gold used to produce them came from the Gold or Guinea coast of West Africa and was provided by the Royal African Company, which had been granted a monopoly of the Africa trade from 1672 until 1698. Coins produced from African gold bore the company's distinctive emblem below the monarch's head: an elephant or elephant and castellated howdah - an ornate canopied seat used for riding on camels or elephants.
All coins of this denomination, whether or not they bore the insignia of the Royal African company, came to be known as guineas.Because the company grew so prominently in the slave trade - to the extent that England was only second to Portugal and Brazil as the foremost exporter of slaves to the New World by the 17th century's end - guineas came to be associated with the traffic in human chattel. Another erason why the coins were linked to the slave trade may have been that some of the English entrepreneurs who originally were involved in mining African gold along the Guinea coast, later abandoned that venture to pursue what became a more lucrative trade in the seizure and export of native peoples from the adjacent Bight of Benin, which came to be known as the slave coast..."

I am not aware of any stamp which depicts a guinea coin on it - maybe there are thematic collectors out there that might prove otherwise?

The other coin that has not yet appeared in this discussion if the "farthing" or quarter of a penny which was in use from saxo times up to the end of 1960. The coin had the image of a wren on the reverse. There was never a British stamp of this value, or a postal rate that incorporated it (though I think early postal stationery cards cost an additional farthing on top of the postage). Some countries of the British Empire period did isssue stamps of this value and Malta issed a pictorial of a farthing value.