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Posted 02/24/2012   07:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add beshergh to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
i need help to id these stamps ?!!



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Posted 02/24/2012   07:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nickmang to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first one is from Crete, Greece
It may be back of the book before Crete joint Greece so check there
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Posted 02/24/2012   07:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuhli to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
group #2 are not listed in most catalogs. the overprint reads "Free Montenegro". issued in 1916 by the exiled government of King Nicholas, who set up camp in Bordeaux, France after the Austro-Hungarian forces occupied Montenegro.
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#4 and the pair in group #5 will be listed under Yugoslavia, in the very front, for use in Bosnia. the overprint reads "State of SHS" (state of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs) the first incarnation of Yugoslavia. a few months later, the Kingdom of Serbia (which had already merged with the Kingdom of Montenegro) joined the union, with Serbian King Peter I as the ruler of the newly formed Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes.
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group #3 will be listed under Bosnia, back-of-book, semi-postals. the overprint reads "widows and orphans"
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Posted 02/25/2012   11:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first one is a 1905 Crete stamp overprinted in red by Crete in 1910 and then surcharged in black by Greece in 1923.

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Group 6 are Free Ukraine stamps issued by the Ukrainian Resistance Movement in 1964. The complete set is comprised of 3 denominations.
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Number 3 is Bosnia, in time of Austro-Hungarian rule, from 1917.
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#2 are indeed issued by the exiled King Nikolas of Montenegro, but definitely NOT in 1916 from Bordeaux - which is a shame because they would be worth serious money if they had been, because the 1916 Bordeaux vintage had genuine, if extremely limited, postal usage.

In 1918, his country having been liberated from the Austrians, the King was preparing to return when there was a coup against him in Montenegro. On 1st December parliament declared in favour of anschluss with Serbia, and pledged allegiance to the ruling house of Serbia which was about to also be the ruling house of the SHS confederation which was eventually to be known as Yugoslavia. And it was very handy for the Serbian king to have the only other ruling king from the area out of the way.

Although in theory France still supported Nikolas's claim to the throne of Montenegro, they had no interest in upsetting Serbia or the rest of the confederation, and they were certainly not keen to continue to pay the now penniless King's very considerable expenses to stay in France.

So he moved to Italy, where in spite of his family ties (his daughter had married into the Italian royal family) he was not popular with the government, who had no more desire than the French to upset the SHS, and who were confident, probably correctly, that he was planning to stage a counter-coup.

Also like the French they resented paying his expenses; the cost of the Montenegrin consulate in Rome alone was 20 million lire p.a. But there was also the expense of his soldiers (not merely the WW1 escapees, but also some that had left Montenegro during the coup), now encamped in Gaeta and Sulmona.

It is at this point, roughly 1920, that he issued these stamps as a purely propaganda issue to raise funds and keep alive the illusion of the King in Exile. And since Gaeta was where his supporters were, that was a reasonable place to issue them; hence they are always known as the Gaeta issue. As well as postage stamps the issue includes postage dues and advice of receipt stamps. What a shame there was no postal service to use them!

He died in March 1921, and his widow Milena formally renounced the family's claim (none of his sons were bright enough to be credible as candidates) to Montenegro.

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