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Of All Things To Tax... Matches??

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Posted 05/16/2012   2:24 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Nells250 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was just thinking, of all the things for the US to tax back in the day, why MATCHES??? Playing cards seem harmless, too (well, unless you are a habitual gambler!)

What was the USIR thought about taxing matches?
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Posted 05/16/2012   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It all goes back to the Civil War. You can get a lot more about it on the internet, but the Scott Catalog refers to it with this statement:


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The extraordinary demands of the Civil War upon the Federal Treasury resulted in Congress devising and passing the Revenue Act of 1862. The Government provided revenue stamps to be affixed to boxes or packages of matches, and to proprietary medicines, perfumery, playing cards -- as well as to documents, etc.


Here's a link with more information:

http://www.rdhinstl.com/mm/mma1.htm
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Posted 05/16/2012   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They also tried taxing potatoes for a bit too, but that ran afoul of the courts I believe.
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Posted 05/16/2012   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The same Revenue Act is what also got period photographs of that day taxed with revenue stamps, too.
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Posted 05/16/2012   7:26 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's another object that seems strange to tax, photographs! Perhaps they were though of as a "luxury" back then? Perhaps the playing cards were taxed because they were "entertainment"?
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Posted 05/16/2012   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a period excerpt from an 1898 newspaper (The Providence Journal) that was reflecting upon the Tax Stamps and the various items that the stamps were required to be placed upon. Unfortunately, the article goes one for paragraphs upon paragraphs and would be prohibitively long to post here, but an applicable excerpt is provided below which provides the general sentiment that was shown 114 years ago!

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Posted 05/17/2012   6:51 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That article reminded me that documents needed stamps, too! Thing is, today we still pay, only we pay a "fee" for certain legal paperwork.

(You know what? I am starting to think maybe, just maybe, I asked this question before... short term memory...)
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Posted 05/18/2012   08:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As I said in my earlier post, the excerpt from that Providence Journal Newspaper was way too large to post in its entirety, but it started out as explaining that before "things" were identified for taxation in 1862, people's occupations were taxed instead at the rate of $5 to $200. Adjusting for inflation, in the 21st century, those figures roughly compare to $108 to $4315 in today's money!

In some cases, the taxes upon certain occupations failed, however, as noted in the second column of the following excerpt, does anyone know what a GAMPILLAEROSTATEUR was? It sounds like maybe a trapeze artist or something similar, but I can't find the word in use today.

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Posted 05/18/2012   09:42 am  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like regular state sales taxes took over. I wonder if all these jobs and things were taxed at different rates then?
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Posted 05/24/2012   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HungaryForStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The French word aerostateur relates to ballooning and probably refers to a balloonist. The Gampill part, who know? The Gampille is a river in France, but that's probably not relevant here.
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Posted 05/25/2012   05:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you google the word gampillaerostateur, the only thing which comes up is SCF and this thread.
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Posted 05/25/2012   6:28 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's funny!
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For Nells250, there were no general [ad valorem] state sales taxes until 1930. But states taxed specific items and services with revenue stamps in the 19th Century, in some cases side by side with Federal revenues.
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Posted 06/09/2012   07:55 am  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think that is what seems odd to modern folks, NO STATE SALES TAX! Sounds so strange, doesn't it!? ;-) ;-)
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Posted 06/09/2012   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If there's a member from New York City here, they can tell you the total "take" from both a STATE and a CITY sales tax. I don't know the current numbers. In addition, there's a "MCTD" commuter tax on some items. Yikes!
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Posted 08/15/2012   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FYI, the tax on matches brought in the largest amount of revenue after the combination of the revenue stamped paper and adhesives used to pay the tax on checks. In the period from 1862-1883, everyone used matches every day, it was an essential necessity. Even at a tax of one cent per hundred it brought in a vast amount of revenue.
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