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Posted 05/22/2012   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Glen3006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everyone am new to all this stamp collecting am am wondering if you have any advice I have been left a envelope with 59 penny reds one of the penny red says plte 77 on the cover and also has a faint 77 at the side in the scroll work apparently this is good?

Also a lot of the stamps have b and a in the bottom corners is this good?

Any help / advice would be appreciated

Glen
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Posted 05/22/2012   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The letters in the bottom corners are simply the plate positions, AA = Row 1 Column 1. For the plate 77, please provide a high resolution scan or picture if you require positive identification.
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Posted 05/22/2012   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Glen3006 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will do friday as im on a ipad at the moment and it wont let me load
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Posted 05/22/2012   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if the Stamp Magazine Owner in New York that had a cover with a penny red(?)on it with plate 77 who was told that it was a fake by a UK committee and spent a lot of time with many technical way to prove that the cover was genuine. It looked to me to be the real thing after what he did to prove it was the real thing. It happened about 2 years ago.

A writer in Australia got into trouble using the Magazine owners images that he had printed in his New York Stamp Magazine in an Australian publication.

It was the only such stamp on cover known!

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Posted 05/23/2012   02:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi to all

The last true penny red plate 77 was sold by Gibbons recently for nearly six hundred thousand pounds
Horamakhet
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Posted 05/23/2012   04:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've got 6 of them Not!
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Posted 05/23/2012   05:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The discussion of the cover in question ran to many pages on the "other" forum and became quite heated. I must confess that I plowed through every page. It was almost a mind-numbing endeavor. I don't know if the issue was ever resolved. Perhaps someone here has kept up with it and knows. The owner of the cover finally bowed out of the discussion.
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Posted 05/23/2012   09:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it is indeed a very fascinating discussion to say the least and I have been following it very closely. As it sits now the cover has gone back for more observation and nothing has been decided as of yet. The sad part of the other board discussion is that yes it did get heated and it chased out the one person with the most knowledge in this area. This is also why I asked the OP for a highly detailed scan of the plate 77, which we have yet to see.......
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Posted 05/23/2012   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Glen3006 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am not saying its genuine I am only saying it has been given to me it has 77 in the lattice could be a fake ya never know no need for anyone to get heated with the discussion
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Posted 05/23/2012   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The heated discussion was another time and place regarding 3 plate 77's on cover which was recently discovered. That discussion did not take place here. We would love to see yours though and I for one am crossing my fingers hoping yours is legitimate as they go for huge money. I don't want to get your hopes up though......
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Posted 05/24/2012   05:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, we do appear to have veered a bit. Glen3006, is it possible for you to post a detailed scan of the stamp in question?
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