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Posted 06/15/2012   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add captp371 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am having some difficulty IDing this stamp....anyone out there can help me?

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Posted 06/15/2012   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a U.S. Stamp from the washington-franklin issue of 1908-20 (I think those are the right years, and the right name of the issue. It could be something else, of corse). It is a coil stamp, perforated vertically. I couldn't tell you what catalog number it is, but I'm sure somebody else could help you out with that.
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Posted 06/15/2012   7:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are literally dozens of 2 cent red Washingtons. We can't help you without knowing the perforation, the size in millimeters, the watermark, and seeing a close-up of the collar of the toga and other identifying details.

Even after more than 50 years of collecting, I still throw all these (and the 1 cent greens) into a box and ignore them. Totally.
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Posted 06/15/2012   7:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
doug2222 is correct that there are many variables to consider to id this stamp. But the fact that it is coil, vertical perfs will narrow it down. It looks to be a perf 10.
If that's the case it could be SC444 from 1914, SC453, 454 or 455 from 1914-16, depending on colour (red or carmine) and some other fine details (types I, II or III).
Or it could be SC492 issued 1916-22. That one would be a carmine colour, Type III.
These different types refer to small variations in the plate.
And we would need a larger very clear image to determine those.
Fun....no?
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Posted 06/15/2012   9:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 06/15/2012   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome captp371!

Here is the universe of possibilities that jamesw described:

Perforated 8.5, Single-line watermark, Type I [carmine, flat-plate intaglio printing] - Scott 413
Perforated 10, Single-line watermark, Type I [carmine, flat-plate intaglio printing] - Scott 444
Perforated 10, Single-line watermark, Type I [carmine rose, rotary-plate intaglio printing] - Scott 453
Perforated 10, Single-line watermark, Type II [red, rotary-plate intaglio printing] - Scott 454
Perforated 10, Single-line watermark, Type III [carmine, rotary-plate intaglio printing] - Scott 455
Perforated 10, Unwatermarked, Type II [carmine, rotary-plate intaglio printing] - Scott 491
Perforated 10, Unwatermarked, Type III [carmine, rotary-plate intaglio printing] - Scott 492

This site may help you with the identification -- http://www.askphil.org/W-F/Index.htm

Enjoy!

Steve
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Posted 06/15/2012   11:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
455 or 492 depending on watermark
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Posted 06/16/2012   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Send it to me, it will join 5,000 more in the infamous "box" LOL.
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Posted 06/16/2012   3:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add captp371 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow I have literally hundreds of these stamps..........it is a perf 10 vertical. color id is impossible but I looked under a scope and its a type II.
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Posted 06/16/2012   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Captp,

Welcome!
Here's a site that has helped me a lot. http://www.1847usa.com/washfrankmain.htm

It a step by step "instruction manual".

Dan
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Posted 06/16/2012   5:47 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
captp-- it's not a great scan, but it looks like it has too many shading lines in the ribbon fold on the right to be a type-II. It looks like it's a type 3-- 455 or 492.

You said you looked under a microscope, but the difference between the II and III is fairly easy-- look at the shading lines in the 2nd fold of the ribbon on the lower right part of the stamp. When you look at the references above and compare the stamp, from the image you've posted, I'm sure you'll see Type-III. Either way, you'll also need to watermark the stamp, and that is where it gets sometime REALLY difficult, because the first rotary issue, which is single line watermarked, is notorious for VERY weak, sometimes impossible to detect watermarks.

Good luck-- Ray
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Posted 06/16/2012   11:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add palaniappan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i think I have a similar stamp like this. I am not sure which variety. I have a stamp which resembles this one, with same denomination.

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Posted 06/27/2012   5:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 597596 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it's a type III for sure. If there is a water mark it's, - Scott, 455 no water mark - Scott 492.
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Posted 06/27/2012   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 597596 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see a check mark in the upper right berry, not a blob.
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