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US Scott #65? On Quartermasters Generals Office Cover

 
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Posted 08/12/2012   12:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dlawson281 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I got this in a box lot and want opinions from SCF on what I actually have here. Possible EDU? or just real neat cover?



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Posted 08/12/2012   1:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If that cover is hand written,
that is some exquisite script.
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Posted 08/12/2012   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlawson281 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod
It is handwritten, 1860's typewriters & autopens where just a dream in somebodys lab.
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Posted 08/12/2012   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From Montgomery Co., PA Civil War Records:


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George W. Callahan, corp., mustered in Aug. 26, 1862; transferred to Sig. Corps March 1, 1864.
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Posted 08/12/2012   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure what "EDU" means? Did you mean EKU? Earliest known use?
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Posted 08/12/2012   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
EDU = Earliest Documented Use ... basically the same meaning as EKU.
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Posted 08/12/2012   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any evidence that it's an early usage. In the 2008 Specialized, the EDU is August 19, 1861. According to the records cited, the addressee wasn't mustered in until 1862. That's not proof positive, but it's a good sign of later usage.
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Posted 08/12/2012   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlawson281 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
doug,

After posting this, I did find the same info that WT1 found, If he did transfer to Signal Corps in 1864 The ? becomes was the Signal Corp part of the Quartmaster Corps?
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Posted 08/12/2012   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow , very nice cover.
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Posted 08/12/2012   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also found that the addressee was later promoted to Sergeant and some of his diaries from January to August 1865 are at a library in their PA Civil War collection.

As for the connection between the Signal Corps and Quartermaster Corps, consider these quotes from Wiki:


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The U.S. Military Telegraph Corps employed civilian telegraph operators, with supervisors who received military commissions in the Quartermaster Department, under the general management of Anson Stager, a former official of the Western Union Telegraph Company. In February 1862, Lincoln took control of the nation's commercial telegraph lines, which were then used by Stager's organization. Secretary Stanton, a former director and attorney for the Atlantic and Ohio Telegraph Company, understood the technical and strategic importance of telegraphy and located the telegraph office directly next to his own in the War Department. One of his biographers described the operators as Stanton's "little army ... part of his own personal and confidential staff." Myer began a campaign to supersede this organization by proposing the purchase of equipment to form telegraph trains (in the sense of wagon trains, not railroad) in the Signal Corps, to provide mobility for telegraph operators supporting armies on the move.


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The Signal Corps completed its wartime service and was dissolved in August 1865. During its lifetime, 146 officers were commissioned in the corps or were offered commissions. There were 297 acting signal officers appointed, although some were for very brief periods. The total number of enlisted men who served during the war was about 2,500.
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Posted 08/12/2012   6:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlawson281 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The questions is this a #65, what color?
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Posted 08/13/2012   06:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I read the cover as Mrs. etc. What does the mustering in of George callahan have to with the date of the cover. Maybe I am reading the handwriting wrong.
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Posted 08/13/2012   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlawson281 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rohumpy,

A letter was in this cover addressed to Mrs. George Callahan and the assumption being it was addressed and sent by Cpl.(Mr.)George Callahan
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Posted 08/14/2012   06:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, that clears it up. Thanks.
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Posted 08/15/2012   06:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As far as color goes It's just a standard #65. Carmine/rose I believe?
(Please correct me if I'm mistaken as I am in no way any sort of authority on this particular issue.)
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