516 Double Impression Or Over Inked ?

i was sorting some stamps earlyer and I kept getting drawn to this pair of 30c, I think it was the darker/richer colour but anyway I kept looking at them and I couldn't work out why then I realized the vertical lines look bigger, I think its a double impression but something in side me is saying dont be an idiot it's an over inked so now I cant decide which it is! so im asking the people who no more than me what they think. anyway here is the scan

It is overinked and has ink bleed from the outer frameline. Probably printed with a high side moisture content from the wetting process.

I would have guessed it was a re-entry but I'm not experienced enough to give the advise.

Thanks I just kept looking at the lines and kept seeing the the ink only going one way to the left and started seeing more in to it but there is diagonal line that gets bigger as it goes down. That must be the moisture source though

It had me stumped.

Apparently the consensus is the stamp is not a double transfer, however, it sure looks like one at first glance.

Anyway, as I look at the Scott catalog I note that the stamp in question has been found with not only double transfers, but (in one position) a "dropped transfer". I've never heard of that term before. Can anyone explain what a "dropped transfer" is?

Dropped Transfer- When one drops a wet print, falling to the floor transferring ink to the floor?

Just kidding, I haven't a clue.

A double transfer would show relatively clean lines in the doubled area. A double impression would show a relativel clear second impression. The areas in question on these stamps lack clear definition and look like ink bleed.

I have heard the term dropped transfer used in 2 ways. First is when the plate entry is aligned below the rest of the entries in a horzontal row (normally called mis-align transfer). Second is when the transfer roll is impressed too deeply into the plate on the first rocking pass or dropped on the plate during setup.

Can any one post the picture of a clean print to compare these too?

Clear impression 516

Thanks. I guess one doesn't encounter "dropped transfers" that often, but it was a new term to me.

Doesn't the "30" look 3D, as if it was pulled to the left during printing? The entire stamp looks like it shifted to the left during printing?

This was the problem I was having it wasnt clean enough to say it was a double impresion but it was to clean to be a overink ?????