Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Possible Fakes?

Previous Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 22 / Views: 5,199Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
1270 Posts
Posted 01/13/2014   4:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Essayk, I'd like to read about the process involved in determine the status of imperf'ed banknotes. Can you direct us to a web site or publication available on the net with any write-ups on that? It would be interesting to read. Thanks!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
101 Posts
Posted 01/13/2014   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DuncanDoenitz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Regarding the CSA #8 (old Scott Catalog number #207) facsimile - here's the artwork from the Dietz card, which was copied by Tatham/Tasco to make their facsimiles, and probably copied by others too.




Also, for any lurkers in the balcony - this CSA stamp and some others are among the easy ones to check for authenticity because they were engraved (intaglio) stamps, so on genuine stamps the ink is raised and the surrounding white areas are often impressed into the stamp paper. Tilt the stamp in an angled light source to see the raised ink, and look at the back of the stamp to see if the intaglio design can be seen.

Oh, and the magazine article quoted above mentions that "a set of sheets of 25 [Springfield facsimiles] are known". They are not that rare. I own several sheets, picked up from different sources. However not all sheets of 25 being offered are "genuine" Springfields. One popular seller recently had a genuine set on ebay, but at what I thought was a really high price.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by DuncanDoenitz - 01/13/2014 4:32 pm
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1614 Posts
Posted 01/13/2014   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a couple similar banknotes I posted about a year ago wondering what they were:

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
10611 Posts
Posted 01/13/2014   8:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp on the left was clearly trimmed, there are remnants of perforations visible on all four sides. The stamp on the right was probably a straddle margin example with a wide right margin as well.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1942 Posts
Posted 01/15/2014   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Essayk, I'd like to read about the process involved in determine the status of imperf'ed banknotes. Can you direct us to a web site or publication available on the net with any write-ups on that? It would be interesting to read. Thanks


Good question, Al, I'd like to read about it too. But I don't have any references for that, and neither do the experts I checked with, one of whom works for Scott. A great deal of this may have happened in direct conversations, but until some further digging is done we won't know for sure. I was a part of those conversations in the 80s and early 90s, but had stepped out of the hobby for a while before it came to a head. So, give me some time and I will see what I can find out.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
1270 Posts
Posted 01/15/2014   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks essayk! That would be great. Just playing devils advocate, how was it determine 100+ yrs. after the fact that any sheets or part of a sheet, was missed in the perforation process? The production process in the 19th. century, based on some articles,was a bit slip-shod., at least compared to todays methods, yet modern issues have many examples of errors slipping through the system; imperfs. just being one error example. I don't doubt that the mint examples in the PF data base could be essays/proofs, but wonder how all could be classed as such--especially used examples. I'm not disputing the experts nor there opinion, I'd just like to understand how they arrived at that decission--what factors weighed in reaching their conclusion etc.---always looking to learn more! I'm sure others would be interested in knowing too! .
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Rest in Peace
United States
7097 Posts
Posted 01/15/2014   6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes! That would be just grand EssayK!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 2 Previous TopicReplies: 22 / Views: 5,199Next Topic  
Previous Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.3 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05