Horizontal Coil Pair On Lake Erie Sunset Postcard My First!

Like a kid all over again jumpin around the house here ahahaha..I finally found a coil and its a pair on a card! I think my eyes popped outta my head and had to look 3 times before I yelled!
Hey guys,what do you think about this,,good deal here or what?? I was looking in Scotts and was wondering 538 or could it possibly be that big 544..or is that impossible becuase I do see anything under 544 saying pairs..will the book always be right when it comes to this or can new be found?? New at this and thats just another one of those questions I have..
Can anyone give me an appox value on this ,,better that its on a card right??
Thank you sooo much everyone,,this find today really did me in now,,hooked for LIFE!
Dave
Oh yeah guys I am 99% sure I found 2 blueish paper 1 cent Franklins...they look bright lime green dont they??,,really bright in comparision to all the others?
Well here's my very first coil stamp find,,I pray you experts tell me its a great one,,and pray even harder you tell me they truly are coil stamps hahahha

Two things; note it's a "Cleve[land] and Cin[cinnati]" railway cancel, and it's the 2c "War Tax" rate for "penny" postcards, used only from November 2, 1917 to July 1, 1919. (Card cancelled May 28, 1918)

These are the subtle aspects of stamp collecting.

Most likely SC 490. But possibly SC 443 [sometimes a scan is hard to identify flat plate printing], or SC 452 [if rotary watermarked - probabaly not because of the 1918 usage.]

Also, the letters "RMS" in the killer part of the duplex cancel refers to "Railway Mail Service".

By the way, can anyone explain the vertical indentations in the stamps? My guess it that it could be from a vending machine dispenser, which would also explain the use of coil stamps on a postcard and why the pair of stamps were overcut into the next beginning of the next stamp in the coil strip.

Yes they are common indentations from the dispenser, often seen on used coils of this era.
Also, to clarify, this is known as a VERTICAL coil, as the terminology refers to the direction of the PERFORATIONS [just another subtle aspect].

Well, 99% of US collectors would refer to these as HORIZONTAL coils, because it's the orientation of the stamps (not the direction of the perforations) that matters...

Chase you say these are verticle coil stamps,then wpouldnt they be scott 538a then or what am I really misin here,,that the only place they are refering to rotary pairs

The Horizontal & Vertical alignment is a Train wreck. Wikipedia agrees with Doug

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil_stamp

1847usa agrees with Chasa

http://www.1847usa.com/washfrank/de...1p10coil.htm

Go figure. Myself, I just call them Coil Stamps to save the embarrassment :)

OK, no perfs to confuse anyone. Would you call this strip of 7 a "horizontal" coil? I would.

I would call this a horizontal strip. The strip of two that started all this is also a horizontal strip, even though the stamps are perforated vertically!

didnt mean to open a can up dang it but whos right here?? hehehehe sorry guys

Another thing that I noticed. Wt1 is talking about overcutting this pair. I have seen this before; it is not all that uncommon on these coilstamps. But normally BOTH sides are cut wrong. Here the right hand side is cut correctly, the left side is overcut. Any theories as why this happened?

One guess could be that the two stamps were detached by the mailer from a larger strip. For example, if the vending machine dispensed multiple stamps and then miscut the stamps when removed from the vending machine, which would make the overcut on one side of the pair only (as shown).

This is a horizontal pair, perforated vertically.

so guys with all of these oddities on this card/satmp whats she worth..has to be more than $5.00 buck s man come on!

Most likely not. The money in most Coil pairs are in "Line pairs" where there is a colored guideline or Joint line between the Stamps.

For what it's worth to the Horizontal / Vertical debate it appears as if it all depends on who you ask.
Robert Siegel considers a Horizontal pair to have vertical perforations.

These are from the Natalee Grace collection.

http://stampauctionnetwork.com/y/y10285.cfm

Scott's simply lists one as a Coil Stamp, Perforated XX (Insert perf spacing) vertically or Horizontally....If that makes sense.