1914 Rose Red George Washington 2 Cent Scott 425 ??

Hello everyone and happy holidays to you all!
I think I may have found another winner here but would like to hear from you guys first before I get all excited again!
This isnt a Carmine so I think its a Rose Red,and if it is a Rose Red would it be a perf 10 x 12 or 12 x 10 by chance??
Probally isnt anything but you never know and never hurts to post up and ask you guys,but my fingers are definatly crossed again!
Thank you everyone,
Dave

Dave, glad to see you are still treasure hunting! I do not really want to put a damper on your enthousiasm, but you are asking an impossible question to answer. If you look at the three scans you took of this stamp they are all in a different color. And I don't think any of them look like rose-red. Colors are very difficult if not impossible to name on a computer unless you have a known color and scan it at the same time with another one.

Pete

The only way to tell for sure is to compare it side by side with a known example, or 2 or 3. If it is a 425, then it's a perf 10. If you're thinking of the 423B or 423E that are both extremely rare then no, this is not one. If the perfs measure 12X10 or 10X12 then most probably a fake made from an imperforate and it will need certification. I wouldn't hold my breath.

What is the perf measurement?

Doesn't look like a compound perf. It looks like its a 406 to me. Check the perfs.
Perf. 12 would be 406 (color looks right for this one)
Perf. 11 could be 461 or 499
Perf. 10 could be 425 or 463

Looks carmine to me from scan and again its not canceled on the cover which would have been nicer with the hotel vignette. Essentially with it not being tied to cover with a cancel it does it no real justice being there. Bottom perfs look a bit hacked compared to the sides but a measurement is needed.

It is definitely not 10 perf on any side. The number of perf holes per side indicates it is perf 12 Scott #406.

Funny, the 3rd image is completely different than the other two-- almost looks "lake".......but everyone's scanner and monitor are different--also definitely perf 12

Thanks, Ray

so guys whats a perf 10 12 and a perf 12 10 then..if this is a perf 12 would it be by chance then a perf 12 10 then?..I have to get a perf gauge!

12x12 ...

here is what 12x10's look like:
http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd...lledfrom=lkp

I wonder what became of this one on cover, if it was ever submitted...

I was rummaging through old stockbooks today, and came across a fake...
Bill Weiss looked at it in a new posting I put up and identified it
immediately as a fake...

The stamp is a perf 12 406. Counting the number of perforation tips or holes within the vertical frame lines extended yields 11+ confirming the identification. The stamp design would be 19 millimeters or 1.9 centimeters wide before shrinkage after printing on wet paper. This is slightly less than the standard 2 centimeter distance used to gauge perforations. Counting perforations or tips will yield a number less than the gauge (12) but more than the next lower gauge (11).

Counting perforations is simple and accurate with a little practice. I am not sure it is helpful to request that the originator of the thread go check the perforations when anyone can do it from the image. A trained eye would spot the difference between perf 10 and perf 12. Measuring or gauging is no substitute for observation.

Clark

Hi, Clark... I measured it at exactly 18.5 x 22.0

What's your opinion of the one the OP posted on cover...
he never re-posted...

Randall

Randall,

In the post above I was referring to the initially posted cover. The stamp is a 406 from visual inspection. Counting the perforations between the vertical frame lines is needed only as a confirmation or in cases when the image could fool the eye.

Clark

Thanks... I was most suspicious of that one,
given no cancellation...