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Scott #14 Assist Please?

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Posted 01/12/2013   12:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is a stamp I received today in the mail from a dealer on ebay that had this marked as a Scott #14 type II. It is an absolute train wreck. It has a big repair on a bottom corner and what looks to be perforation remnants on the right side. A trimmed #33 (which would be identical to a scott #15, & but perforated I believe?) They was printed from the same printing plates anyway. What are your thoughts on this?

Also, Advice on maybe how to handle this situation with this dealer. I never had to take any action before and I'm certainly not confrontational in sort of way but feel like I been taken. Weather it was intentional or not I really don't know but it's a dealer that I never used before this purchase.
Thank you for any input you may offer.

Here is the source of my plating information also (I was toying with the notion to try my hand at plating these.)- http://www.uspcs.org/the-1851-1860-...0-10c-issue/

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Posted 01/12/2013   12:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The back looks to be in brutal condition. If it was mis-identified by the seller than a return should be no issue. Remember, you are the customer so demand satisfaction and settle for nothing less, in a professional manner.
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Posted 01/12/2013   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you stallzer.

edit:
What really burns me is that I could have bought a real nice certified #15 instead but, of course, thrifty me, I chose this one so I could grab a few more wants too. Bad decision however it would have fine if it was the right stamp so... I'll just do this for awhile->
Then learn from all this.

I would still enjoy a little insight on this stamp however.
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 01/12/2013 12:41 pm
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Posted 01/12/2013   12:41 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely Type II with the line complete at top, so if trimmed, would be trimmed #32, and it certainly appears to be trimmed. Shame-- the margins are still really nice. At some point, before the perfs were damaged, then trimmed, this would have been an EXCELLENT #32.
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Posted 01/12/2013   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is definitely not an original imperf.. perf holes are still visible.
Why did they do this? a 32 is more valuable then a 14 or 15.
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Posted 01/12/2013   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably a lot of damaged or pulled perfs.
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Posted 01/12/2013   3:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My thought's exactly. HOWEVER, I only paid 33 bucks for it so I don't know if I should complain or not? lol
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Posted 01/12/2013   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
14-32 my bad, I said 15-33...duh...I knew what I meant though I guess that's what counts..
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Posted 01/12/2013   7:01 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't advise what to do unless you linked the original listing so that we get the complete picture of the transaction. I think $33 is at least twice as much as what this stamp is worth, however.

I doubt very much that this is a trimmed-down perforated stamp. Those aren't perf remnants at right and the paper doesn't look like 1857+ paper.
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Posted 01/12/2013   9:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK. http://www.ebay.com/itm/26114897495....m1439.l2649

I been thinking about this all day and I think I am just going to keep it for a reference piece. I did only paid like 33.00 bucks for it, so really no harm, no foul, lesson learned. I informed the seller and will leave feedback after his response.
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Posted 01/13/2013   12:03 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not going to mince words or spare your feelings. You got ripped off and would be foolish not to return this stamp. The auction description makes no mention of the faults, and the picture is fuzzy & small. If you don't do something about it, the seller assumes he can get away with ripping off the next buyer.

Tell us you're going to return this for a full refund. Lie to us if you have to, but please don't use the excuse "I only spent $33.00"

Brian
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Posted 01/13/2013   12:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
$33 better spent elsewhere. Send it back.
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Posted 01/13/2013   6:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
well I havent made a move on it yet im away from my computer ill have the wife check my ebay messages and take care of it. I just didnt want to stir up any trouble but brian I tespect your opinion very much so ill take your advice and send it back. -Jeff
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Posted 01/15/2013   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
James, you. too. (:,
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Posted 01/15/2013   1:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeff, the above response is kind of cryptic, but if you mean 'am I agreeing with those other guys', then yes. Afraid so.
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Posted 01/15/2013   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I know.. om on my "smart" phone so long responses are difficult. I meant that I respect your opinion highly as well as stallzer & Sinclair's. it is just hard for me to type on this littl scre
n. :) ~thats a happy face. im thankfully on the fullington trailways bus to State college (we go past the match factory) then home. yaaaay!!
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