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Posted 02/12/2013   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stallzer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Finally found a nice clean C1 Jenny solo use on a commercial cover. The price was higher than I hoped but my bid was just enough to win it. It arrived yesterday and I removed it from the package to find the seller stuffed a crumbled piece of Newspaper behind the cover causing this.



How annoying !!
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Posted 02/12/2013   10:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a real shame! Why would the seller even consider adding a clump of newspaper to an item that's mailed flat in a cardboard mailer?
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Posted 02/12/2013   10:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Irresponsible and idiotic
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Posted 02/12/2013   11:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fotofila to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stupidity!!
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Posted 02/12/2013   11:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
O_U_C_H! Oh man! I'm sorry for your misfortune man. That really sucks! How are you going to handle this?
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Posted 02/12/2013   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My deepest condolences .

Hopefully you can flatten and rescue the poor thing.
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Posted 02/12/2013   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I ended up contacting the seller and sending him / her the picture. The seller responded very professionally and offered me a refund and return the cover or a partial refund and keep the cover. I chose to keep the cover since the seller refunded half the purchase price and I think it should flatten back out nicely.
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Posted 02/12/2013   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know what your definition is of a "commercial cover" but the cover shown is addressed to a famous airmail cover dealer of that period, Albert C. Roessler of East Orange, NJ:


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Albert C. Roessler (1883-1952) was a stamp dealer who was best known for his cacheted covers, and examples of his work are sought by collectors.

Roessler was born April 7, 1883, in Newark, N.J., and spent a portion of his early years in Colorado. He was a founding member of the Denver Stamp Club, established December 13, 1905.

Within a few years he was established as a stamp dealer in east Orange, N.J., after a period of Nassau Street (New York) activity.

With the coming of air mail in the US in 1918, Roessler began the creation of cacheted covers. His first cover, according to Barry Newton (A. C. Roessler: Photo Cachet Catalogue, FDC publishing co., 1976), was for the first air mail flight between Washington, New York, and Philadelphia. He published Air Mail Stamp News from 1918 to 1938.

Something of a mystery man, Roessler would never permit his photograph to be published and no confirmed pictures of him are known. Dan Barber in his "Via Air Mail" column in Stamp Collector (September 13, 1980), reproduces two photographs which might be those of Roessler.

Roessler is reported to have gone out of the stamp business in 1940, and he died on January 26, 1952.

- Kenneth A. Wood
This is Philately - Volume Three Q-Z
Van Dahl Publications 1982
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Posted 02/12/2013   1:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add graphis to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I always make sure to request the seller mail the items flat..add some board and if necessary I would pay the extra postage..lastly I request that the seller mark clearly on the envelope "Do Not Bend-Ne Plier Pas"..french for "for do not fold:..after all Canada is a bilingual country.
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Posted 02/12/2013   2:11 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why even add the newspaper???
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Posted 02/12/2013   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlawson281 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The seller maybe added the newspaper so the "package" was 3/4inches in thickness and met the USPS 1st class package dimenisons and could be tracked. (my guess)
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Posted 02/12/2013   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi stalzer,

It looks like there are no sharp creases so the cover should flatten out well. Try placing the cover, stamp side down, between two sheets of clean white blotting paper ( bottom sheet dry, top sheet very, very lightly dampened.) Apply a dry iron on lowest heat setting to the damp top sheet without any downward pressure. Test run on something similar ( and cheap ) first. If you can get it flat you will have a nice bargain in your album.

Terry

PS. Remove the plastic sleeve first.
Sorry, you know that anyway.
TC.
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Posted 02/12/2013   5:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The things that happen in this world
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Posted 02/12/2013   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't know what your definition is of a "commercial cover"


The sender / receiver should not solely decide on whether it's commercial or Philatelic. A Stamp dealer also had to send and receive business and personal letters too in 1918.

A commercial cover is a piece of mail either personal or business, paying the correct rate and has a contemporaneous cancel. The solo use guarantees the correct rate.

Things that make a cover Philatelic.

First day covers or first flight covers
Cacheted covers
Commemorative cancels
Unnecessary mixed frankings
Last day of service

I have no reason to believe this is a contrived cover, but when a stamp dealer is involved.....shady things happen....
If he did send it to himself, I certainly hope he would have had them do a better strike on the CDS. After reading his bio I wish it were one of his works but from the sound of it, doesn't look as though he put any work into this cover. The name give it a great title in a collection :)

A.C. Roesseler, "Famous Cachet maker"


Flattened out a bit.







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Posted 02/12/2013   7:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a handsome looking cover isn't it? I can see why you popped on it originally. I really enjoy that font too.
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Posted 02/12/2013   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know whether it's commercial or philatelic but if
YOU like it that's all that counts.


No matter what; it is a nice cover.
Too bad though that he didn't stick it on fairly level.
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