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Posted 11/17/2008   8:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, there was a War Department. Now it's the Defense Department.
Sounds like they went from an active to a passive stance! You can
make war, but how do you make defense? Cover your face and let them
keep hitting you?
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Posted 11/28/2008   4:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

This 7c Department of State came in the mail today from Ruby:

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Posted 11/28/2008   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have some officials, but they are all modern. I purchased them a couple years ago at a club silent auction. Wonderful stamps you guys have.
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Posted 12/06/2008   5:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, stamperdude!

Also I have a complete set of 10 card proofs of the Interior Deparment stamps.



Here is a closeup of the 12c Henry Clay.


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Posted 12/29/2008   5:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just bought this 2c War Department solo usage on a cover sent on April 3, 1884 from Marion,
Indiana to The Secretary of War in Washington, D.C.



The Secretary of War in 1884 was Robert Todd Lincoln, the the first son of President
Abraham Lincoln and Mary Todd Lincoln.



Any ideas about what the "O. R. R." marking in the lower left corner might stand for?
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Posted 12/29/2008   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dont have a clue...could there be a little bit of nepotism going on??
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Posted 12/29/2008   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know either. Something to do with a rail road, maybe Oregon? Items like that cover could be an interesting tangent for my Lincoln collection.
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Posted 12/29/2008   8:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"O.R.R." may stand for "Operational Readiness Report."

The fact that the address and acronym are pre-printed on the envelope suggests that a fair number of envelopes were needed (and the cost of printing was justified) in order to make it easier to send a series of regular reports to the Secretary of War in Washington.
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Posted 01/03/2009   11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The Post Office Department did not go along with the same "bust" designs but instead substituted a series of simple black numerals surrounded by the text "Official Stamp."





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Posted 01/03/2009   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just do not understand why the Post Office at most every turn will work against the collector of stamps. They had a great chance to really do something with this series instead of the plain numerals and opted not to.
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Posted 01/04/2009   12:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This 6c double rate cover dates from about 1874. It was sent from the Post Office Department,
Office Supplies division in Washington, D.C. to the Postmaster of Millville, New York.



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Posted 01/04/2009   12:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I just do not understand why the Post Office at most every turn will work against the collector of stamps. They had a great chance to really do something with this series instead of the plain numerals and opted not to.


Perhaps the postmasters wanted their internal correspondence to look distinctive so they could easily recognize something for them in a pile of incoming letters. So they just took out the engraved busts and put in numerals. And they probably thought that the public would never see the stamps anyway since they were for post office internal use only.
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Posted 01/04/2009   12:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It does make a little sense for this route to be taken with them but I do get a thorn in my side when they do things like this. But even with some of the wrong moves they make if it was not for the Post Office we would not have the hobby.

Here are some of the ones not listed yet.

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Posted 01/05/2009   9:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I discovered that is possible to find some of the 1873 officials on cover, but they are few and
far between. Here is a 3c Department of Interior stamp used on Pension Office correspondence
from Washington, D.C. to Rogersville, Tennessee.



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Posted 01/05/2009   11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting more officials, they are wonderful. Some of my favorite BOB have numerals instead of busts, for example Postage Due.
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