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Three 3 Cent Washington Imperfs... Colors?

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Posted 03/27/2013   6:27 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Nells250 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all

While trying to find something in my cover album, I noticed that the three covers I have with 3 cent Washington imperfs have stamps in three different colors! Now, I am in NO way an expert on the early US issues. I decided to scan all three at the same time, at the same %, and let you all take a peek at them.

As always, I'd like to know folks' thoughts!

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Posted 03/27/2013   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gladiators001 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my answer:



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Posted 03/27/2013   6:54 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ummmmmmmmm... that doesn't help!

;-)

Look at all those colors and varieties!
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Posted 03/27/2013   7:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gladiators001 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is just one step towards identifying, just narrow possibilities by color, then look at specific details, e.g. re-cut frames, this website can help you more specific: http://www.theswedishtiger.com/10-scotts.html

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Posted 03/27/2013   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gladiators001 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First one looks to me stott#11
Color: Plum (scarce)
Printed from Plates: 2L, 3, and 4
1857
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Posted 03/27/2013   7:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gladiators001 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow what an effort from me trying to help:D
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Posted 03/28/2013   02:15 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not able to plate but 1st stamp is oxidized and isn't plum, which is a lot rarer than pigeon blood pink on the 1861 3c issue.

Stamps one and two are both 11A and stamp three is #11

Hope this helps, Ray
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Not able to plate but 1st stamp is oxidized and isn't plum, which is a lot rarer than pigeon blood pink on the 1861 3c issue.

Stamps one and two are both 11A and stamp three is #11

Hope this helps, Ray
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Posted 03/28/2013   02:15 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not able to plate but 1st stamp is oxidized and isn't plum, which is a lot rarer than pigeon blood pink on the 1861 3c issue.

Stamps one and two are both 11A and stamp three is #11

Hope this helps, Ray
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Posted 03/28/2013   07:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add artlaunier to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ray,
Are you starting to stutter?
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Posted 03/28/2013   09:36 am  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oxidized?? Now how in the Wide World of Sports do you know that?? Perhaps better scans are in order to help folks out, seeing as the second chart also makes things confusing!

(well... for ME... which is easy)
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Posted 04/01/2013   3:25 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, here is a much larger scan of the darkest 3-center for you all to look at:



I'd appreciate any other info from the pros here!
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Edited by Nells250 - 04/12/2013 12:20 pm
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the yellows, reds & oranges will oxidize over time because of exposure to atmospherical pollutants. looks like it could be an oxidized orange brown but, I personally favor claret.
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Posted 04/13/2013   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nells250, scroll down almost to the bottom on this link and you will see actual stamps depicting the actual color variants. With this you will be to at least get it into the ballpark.

I'll take a poke at them for you:
1st - Deep Claret, 2nd - Copper Brown, 3rd - Orange Brown~(or maybe brown as the images are too small to more accurately see.)

http://www.theswedishtiger.com/11-s...s.html#essay
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 04/13/2013 08:56 am
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Posted 04/13/2013   1:27 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That part of the Swedish Tiger site does little more than muddy the water. Other parts are even more dangerous. I wouldn't send my enemy there.

None of the three stamps posted in this thread are good or even fair examples of ANY color. The first two are pretty badly sulfurized. The third stamp is probably a little sulfurized and looks to be a poor impression.

I would imagine the first stamp is a '52 brownish carmine or a '53 dull red. Could also be a '57 claret.
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Edited by sinclair2010 - 04/13/2013 1:28 pm
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Good to know. Thanks.
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