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Posted 09/24/2013   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add StampRat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Beginner trying to learn about the many Washingtons and Franklins,which are rare and which common. Anything interesting here or just run of the mill? Thanks

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Posted 09/24/2013   11:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bigger scan will help....looks like no value, common. sorry.
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Posted 09/25/2013   08:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MikeQ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To me, Wash-Franks are tricky to ID. I find this site helpful: http://www.1847usa.com/washfrankmain.htm
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Posted 09/25/2013   08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You should never say "of no value" because that simply just isn't true. The "value" of stamps is mostly in the enjoyment and the history as well as some actual rarities so, you see they are valuable indeed especially if you know where to look.

Would you please post a much larger image of them preferably on a black background and maybe we can tell you what the Scott number is? Thank you and welcome to the forum if I haven't yet said so!
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Posted 09/25/2013   09:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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You should never say "of no value" because that simply just isn't true. The "value" of stamps is mostly in the enjoyment and the history as well as some actual rarities so, you see they are valuable indeed especially if you know where to look.

I understand what you are saying....but when a newbie posts a scan, asks a question , they are asking about monetary value 99.99% of the time. Usually handed down to them looking to sell....not continue the collection.
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Posted 09/25/2013   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



MikeQ is right. Washington/Franklins are extremely difficult to identify. Books have been written on the subject. (Washington Franklin 1908-1921 by Martin A. Armstrong) Mike has the right website, but it is not easy to navigate. Try the home page...

http://www.1847usa.com/index.htm

...Then look in the lower right corner where it says "Washington Franklin Worksheets". Poke around down there and you will get familiar with it.

Watch out for fakes. And keep in mind that when trying to tell one type from another, a stamp may have characteristics of more than one type on it. I think insufficient cleaning of the plates during printing may have been the cause of this. That is why it is good to have as many different details to check on the stamp as possible.

This and the Identifier in front of the Scott Specialized Catalog (of which the 2013 can now be found on the internet cheap) should help you immensely.



Good Luck.


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Posted 09/25/2013   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I understand but that was why I wrote what I did so he would understand what the value of collecting really is. I meant no disrespect whatsoever.
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Posted 09/25/2013   12:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampRat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info everyone. Luckily I am a newbie with thick skin so all comments, assumptions are appreciated.
I have hundreds of the Washingtons and almost as many Franklins. I would like to use extras to finance filling holes in the album that was started in the late '20s. I certainly don't want to make a mistake in the process.So thanks again for all the info.
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Posted 09/25/2013   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO, I don't think that ILS meant any harm.

All stamps have a value, but, some are so cheap and so common that most collections have them and will never be worth a lot.

In so many words, maybe ILS meant - 'don't quit your day job and order a yacht'

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Posted 09/25/2013   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampRat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with ILS. He said nothing out of line.
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Posted 09/25/2013   2:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
StampRat,




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filling holes in the album that was started in the late '20s


When you get a little more experience under your belt, you might want to check the stamps that are already in the album too. I found a lot of incorrectly placed stamps in older albums that I have acquired, especially with early issues and more complex series like the W/F.

We all make identification mistakes.

Dan
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Posted 09/25/2013   2:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampRat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks D. Good idea.
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I found a lot of incorrectly placed stamps in older albums that I have acquired


Absolutely true, and I just went through an extensive WF collection. Unfortunately, what I have found is that the errors are usually stamps put in the higher "valued" sections. Occassionally I find one the other direction, but usually in the wrong direction. However, it sure keeps me busy! Keep looking ... there may be a beauty in there somewhere.
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Posted 09/25/2013   4:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
StampRat,the Washington/Franklin series is a facinating series to collect. I've been collecting/studying them for several years and they're as fun to collect and identify as they were in the beginning. At first, its seems like an insurmountable task; its a bit confusing learning the minor variations etc., but it does get better as you work them. Enjoy them and have fun, but do be mindful that there are many fakes for the more valuable varieties--especially the early coil issues. Lots of folks on this site that can help you when you have questions.
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