Advise Needed Please Black Limcoln 15c Strange Grill?

Hello Everyone

First of all best wishes for all.

Now offcourse my question, came across this one. It is not in the best shape, but it has a very large grill, or 2.

I can not find anything about this grillsize. It looks that the grill is at least half of the stamp. Maybe the hole stamp, but I am not clear with that. Is there anyone with enough knowledge to tell a bit more? I would be glad with any help. Hope the picture is clear enough.

Mar1976, does the grill look different in person then it does in your pictures? What I'm seeing is not a grill that covers the whole stamp or even half. Looks like slightly more then a quarter of the stamp.

As best I can count on the first scan, I get 12 columns by 15-16 rows. "F" grill.

Thank you for advise, but the problem is the rest is almost fadeded. I am almost hole day trying to get it good on a picture, but that is not so easy. I am sure the points are more than what is to see on the picture.

I know there is always something a mind want to see , but quit sure my eyes not been foold. I hope I can proof it with a good picture, as soon as possible.

I know there is always something a mind want to see
That is a very wise statement.

I count 12 horizontal by 17 or 18 vertical.

it's "Whole day" not "hole day". You dig a hole. A fraction is a part of a whole.

I_Love_Stamps@ You are not alone well done mate

The 15-cent Lincoln is only known on the Z,E and F grills. Only 2 copies of the Z grill known: 13 or 14 columns by 17 or 18 rows AND the grill ridges must be horizontal. E grill is 14 columns by 15 to 17 rows. F grill is 11 or 12 columns by 15 to 17 rows. E and F grill have verticle ridges. There are 12 columns (visible) on your stamp's scan--it can only be an F grill. There is some excellent info. on the Siegel Auctions web site explaining grills. www.siegelauctions.com >tools & resources >siegel encyclopedia >1867-68 grilled issues AND/OR >1868 Z grill. You can also check www.1847usa.com >grills on 19th. century U. S. stamps for some additional info. If you are seeing more columns than 12, you may want to get Bill Weiss to look at it if you think it may be a Z grill

Save your money, if it clearly has 12 vertical rows, it can only be an "F" grill (#98). It should have 14 vertical rows to be either an "E" or "Z" grill. And to be a "Z" it must have points that have horizontal tips, like this ---------. All other female grills have vertical points like this ||||||||.

I will post a picture soon fof the final judgement. Thank you for al the help. It is very nice and helpfule.

Ps spellingcontrole does not work, so excuse me when I make some mistakes.

Don't go in that hole that I have diged

Here is the patern, hope it is clear enough. Very hard to make a good picture. Hope you can tell what grill it is.

This one is a better picture I hope.

stamp has 12 horizontal rows...."F" grill.

What is all the black residue on the back??

Thank you.

I am a newbee and will not go against your opinion. But with all do respect, look at the right of the stamp. Close next the second row from below.

It is very hard to see on this pictures, becausse the resolution is 320. But there are 100% sure points for 2 more rows. I have better pictures but can not place them on the web.

If there is anyone who wants to have better pictures, sent me pb with email adress.

I am no gold digger or whetever, but the grill also show --- lines.

I am not saying it is a Z grill, but it is not an F. It is a stamp that comes out a collection I bought.

Thanks everyone.

Mar1976....
There would be no gap between the grill points.

My comments from another post about grills...