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Posted 01/16/2009   11:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't know this - actually I had no idea the insurance wasn't any good.

I wonder why they've alienated their customers . . . hummmmmmmmmmm!
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Posted 01/17/2009   06:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am still a little unsure whether it is UPS or USPS, which would not honor the claim. Please use the entire name of the organization--either United Parcel Service Or United States Postal Service to say which one would not pay the claim.
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Posted 01/17/2009   11:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While Stever has me a little confused with his last post the form that he has shown matches the regulations for UPS, United Parcel Service.
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Posted 01/17/2009   1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stever to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes UPS not USPS UPS will not pay claims on anything of strange value it is their new fine print of Jan 5th 2009 so I f they say they are not paying you are out of everything. Also ups has lost every shipment of mine since Nov of last year. I will never ship Thur them again. Jewelry coins stamps they will not honor claims which make it legal theft to me See my poll in general discussion also please.
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Posted 01/17/2009   4:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add the_stampaholic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stever: gotta say USPS ain't no peach. As some of the others have said, but they're still better than UPS.
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Posted 01/17/2009   4:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Everyone's experience will vary I suppose. I have had
better luck over the years with UPS than USPS or FedEx.
When I have had bad experiences, all 3 have taken 'we're
not responsible' positions. The insurance for all 3 sux.

UPS is the lesser of 3 evils for general parcel service.
For shipping stamps/coins though, I suppose I will need to
rethink my habits there. However, stamps and coins are
pretty much the only things I ever send USPS. Anything
that needs a box = UPS, envelope = USPS.

My .02

I hope you win though. They are all 3 crooked as heck.
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Posted 01/17/2009   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't think of a single time I have had a problem with either the USPS or UPS. I have mailed box through both and have received boxes from both.

I send or receive about an average of 4 boxed items a month. I do get a large rush of deliveries just prior to spring for time sensitive items for the farm and once again never a problem.

I suppose there are problems but I would think they are more rare than the standard.
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Posted 01/17/2009   9:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stever to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The issue is not shipping the issue is they lost a Scott # 69 Og unused. And will not pay the insured value.And they new what was being insured at the counter. (All must read new tariffs for UPS). They state Anything deemed unusual jewelry coins stamps etc. and so the fine print is, We are not going to pay for anything we loose basically, to me they should reimburse shipping costs, they will not even do this so for your own safety don't ship ups.
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Posted 01/17/2009   9:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How can they reimburse when they are listed as items not shippable? They have had "Stamps of unusual value" list for a long time Steve. I mean I hate to be a jerk but they are pretty clear on what they will cover, which is nothing unless you made contractual arrangements with them.

Look I see your point they lost your package. That stinks. However at the same time I understand their shipping policy. If it is prohibited then they in fact owe nothing on the shipping either.

Once again I feel your pain and while I might think the policy stinks, they are well within their rights.

You see I learned the hard way too. They prohibited the shipping of live animals. I ordered chicks, needless to say they died in transportation. So even though they accepted them and transport them they are not libel because it was clearly stated that live animals are prohibited. I was out the cost of the chicks plus the shipping because it was a prohibited item.

Maybe that is why I read the small print now. I was mad but at the same time more mad at myself for not getting informed first. Needless to say I never make that mistake again.

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Posted 01/17/2009   9:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, if they say "not shippable", then you have them right
there on a huge technicality! It is pretty obvious that the
item being shipped is listed on the paperwork. If it is not
shippable, then why did they ship it, knowing what it was?

Right there, by breaking their own rules, they set a precedent
that they would take responsibility for the item right there. IMO.
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Posted 01/17/2009   10:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They cover that with the wording that includes inadvertently acceptedd.

Though you may want to push that same note that states - Note 5: In the event articles in this item are inadvertently accepted, notwithstanding other liability limitations set forth herein, Carriers maximum liability shall not exceed $.50 per pound per package. In no case shall Carrier liability exceed $100,000.00 per shipment.

It is worth a try.
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Posted 01/17/2009   10:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They weren't 'inadvertently' accepted. That implies they
didn't know what was in the package. They were knowingly
accepted.
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Posted 01/17/2009   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is pretty clear from a business that tells you like it is up front.

Restricted means ship it, it gets lost, you get nothing! UPS will not honor a claim for restricted (or prohibited) items. Ship at your own risk.
http://www.maildepot1.com/index_fil...ge_4.htm#pro

Oh well thats enough from me. I wish you good luck Steve.
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Posted 01/18/2009   12:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stever to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well it was shipped. and the new tariffs did not go into affect until Jan 5th 2009 I shipped before this, and it now states anything unusual value, which can mean any collectible or it leaves them an opening to that about anything they want to claim unusual so the door is wide open. it covers them on what ever.
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Posted 01/18/2009   1:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stever to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A That is and its not the stamp it the refund for loosing the stamp shipping costs are still shipping costs correct? That is still money lost it does not matter of the claim they can not keep your shipping costs for any reason they cant deliver.
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