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Uncut Press Sheets Without Diecuts?

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Posted 03/10/2014   3:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampCat7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it is interesting that my card was charged way back on Feb 17th for the no die cut lincoln and still haven't received confirmation from PO. I am already paying on the charge.
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Posted 03/10/2014   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd call SFS and complain. They aren't supposed to charge your credit card until the item has shipped. If they are doing otherwise, you should have the right to dispute the charge with them until the product(s) are available.
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Posted 03/10/2014   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampCat7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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they said it was because it was through the web site and not a phone order. I think they are waiting for the freshly minted Lincolns to dry.
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Posted 03/10/2014   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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they said it was because it was through the web site and not a phone order

Makes sense. I preordered mine in late January by phone. No credit card charges yet. However, when you order by phone, they don't send you an e-mail when the sheet ships, so I prefer ordering from the web site when I can. Unfortunately, many items are never offered on the web site.
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Posted 03/10/2014   7:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cal516 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I ordered mine on 2/5 online. Spoke to SFS today. They had not shipped (of course) but neither had they charged my card. Cancelled the order over the 1000/2500 issue.
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Posted 03/10/2014   10:52 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"If the previously posted Linn's article is accurate, the USPS reports that 2500 Lincoln Press Sheets of each (with and without die cuts) were produced from the start. It was an error in the Postal Bulletin that read "1000" instead of "2500" that led people to believe otherwise. So it would seem that all 2500 Press Sheets were initially printed and were just recorded wrong in the Postal Bulletin. Now whether or not the mistake was unintentional or deliberate, that's another issue entirely."

You could blame a typo if they said 1500 instead of 2500 (just hit the wrong key 1 next to the 2), but you don't accidently type 1000 when you mean 2500, especially when almost all of them have been 2500 in the past. And the big delay is another tell tale sign.
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Posted 03/11/2014   06:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cal516 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The reason is almost irrelevant to me. At 1000 and the relatively low price, I was worth it to me to put a few away on the chance of some appreciation. At 2500 the already slight chance was greatly reduced and no longer an attractive proposition. It is hard to visualize a bunch of people sitting in a conference room planning to report 1000 and later admit to 2500 just to increase initial sales. Incompetence seems a so much easier fit.

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Posted 03/11/2014   07:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Buyer beware with modern day collector produced limited edition collectible rarities that can be reproduced back at any time by its issuer. They should have the sheets numbered on the side such as 0001/1000 or 0001/2500 just to make sure that they stick to it. If anyone changes the number to be issued then it makes one not trust them anymore because what's to stop them from doing it again.
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Posted 03/12/2014   06:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If anyone changes the number to be issued then it makes one not trust them anymore because what's to stop them from doing it again.

This is the problem- 3 shets approx $42 (with added cost to canada) of the lincolns = no major loss but how could I or anyone reading this trust $600 on the new $19,99. These are all geared at us collectors and a simple numbering system would be a great idea. Still can be cut for singles , pairs and usage but assures proper production.
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Posted 03/24/2014   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Riderontherain to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Today I decided to call USPS about the status of the Lincoln press sheet (w/o die cuts) I ordered some weeks ago. I was told it is still "back-ordered". To me this terminology is a significant shift from the previous one of "being on hold".

I think this is a case of USPS deciding to print more sheets after the fact due to high demand, rather than an error in printing quantity as claimed.
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Posted 03/28/2014   06:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampCat7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well I finally received shipping confirmation on my Lincoln No die cut press sheets ordered and charged to my card on Feb 17th.
In my opinion the situation with these Lincoln No die cuts is exactly the same as the 4 player baseball no die cut sheets. The fact that these Lincoln's were not shipped until 6 weeks after the issue date is proof that the sheets were reprinted. I believe the so called "error" in the postal bulletin which stated the printing quantity as only 1,000 sheets was correct. They must have destroyed the original 1000 and reprinted (at least) 2500 more. Just like with the baseball fiasco.

I hope they waited for the ink to dry so as not to smudge them in the package....
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Posted 03/28/2014   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The fact that these Lincoln's were not shipped until 6 weeks after the issue date is proof that the sheets were reprinted.

I understand why you think this. But even this scenario makes no sense to me. The press sheets with die-cuts started shipping in late February. To produce these, you would think that they first would have to produce press sheets without die-cuts ... and then add the die-cuts. This would imply that press sheets without die-cuts must have been available much earlier, just to produce the ones with die-cuts. Hopefully the USPS will eventually explain the long delay.
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Posted 03/28/2014   09:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does this Lincoln Press Sheet have the dubious distinction for the longest delay ever reported in shipping Press Sheets since they were first issued by the USPS? As I recall, even the Baseball Press Sheets weren't delayed by six weeks.

Whether or not one believes it was a destroy/re-print delay or a legitimate delay for other reasons, it seems to me the USPS owes the stamp collecting public an explanation.
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Posted 03/28/2014   11:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mabutkiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
any idea why it took so long for the Lincoln NDC press sheets to ship?
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Posted 03/28/2014   11:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mabutkiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I should have read all before I asked the question. I will say one last thing the USPS will not share the truth about the stamps they issue unless one goes with the Freedom of Information Act.
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