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Posted 01/19/2009   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mod......

I bet that if you pain the ends orange or find a plastic cap that fits you could list them without any problems.
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Posted 01/19/2009   11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sharksfan11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How much do you want for all 3? Especially the B&M card.
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Posted 01/19/2009   11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"They are not stamps and are not the equivalent of stamps. You can't glue a postcard to an envelope and mail it."

Sure they are -- they're issued by the Post Office, and they carry Post Office-issued stamps on them.

As historic items, they should not be, in any way, banned.

Just another case of PC idiots running amok, if you ask me. Sorry, but such historic items must be looked at in the context of the times in which they originated, and should not be held to today's standards. We already know that the Nazi regime was a bad thing; sweeping such things under the rug doesn't change the fact that they happened.

And yes, there has been an inconsistent application of ebay's own regulations.
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Posted 01/20/2009   01:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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How much do you want for all 3? Especially the B&M card.


ebay has either missed or allowed one of them to stay and it has been
bid upon. I don't know what you mean by B&M card, and I don't know how
to price them which is why they were listed as auction items rather than
as store inventory.
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Edited by modern_who - 01/20/2009 10:21 am
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Posted 01/20/2009   03:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jan-Simon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't know what you mean by B&M card

B&M = Böhmen und Mähren / Bohemia and Moravia - the third card with "die Heimat frei".

It is indeed not easy to price them and auction is often the easiest way. Let the market decide...

I have the first card (with Deutschland, Deutschland über alles) available for sale or trade, in used condition (with a long story on it that I have not been able to decipher yet)
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Posted 01/20/2009   08:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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B&M = Böhmen und Mähren / Bohemia and Moravia - the third card with "die Heimat frei".


OK. The Bohemia and Moravia item is a cover, that's why I didn't know what you meant by B&M card.
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Posted 01/20/2009   09:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Sure they are -- they're issued by the Post Office, and they carry Post Office-issued stamps on them.


OK, a stamp and a post card are the same thing, you win.


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As historic items, they should not be, in any way, banned.


I'm sure glad you don't write ebay rules. My uncle has live hand grenades from WWI he's been dying to sell. You'd let him.
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Posted 01/20/2009   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Big difference between something dangerous and a piece of paper; even common sense dictates that.
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Posted 01/20/2009   09:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Big difference between something dangerous and a piece of paper; even common sense dictates that.


Exactly, so now your changing your original statements and agreeing that a line has to be drawn somewhere right?

I don't consider Their choice to draw the line just before disrespecting an entire race wrong at all. Evidently you do, so we'll have to agree to disagree then. This entire issue is more about respect than censorship.

Here's the bottom line, it's ebay's playground and they set the rules. For the most part, and in this instance for sure, they are pretty clear. Those rules were broken and the seller got caught but got away with one. It's that simple. No one is forcing anyone to sell on ebay and they are far from a monopoly, there are literally thousands of other places to sell.

If you come to my house, I can tell you that you can't come in unless you take you're shoes off.....

1. You can say well, I'm not taking them off. Both can happen without any injury to anyone and neither one of us is wrong. Take your shoes off and come in and have a beer with me, or leave them on and go to someone elses' house.

2. You can scream at me and tell me you have every right to leave your shoes on, that I'm not applying the rules equally because I still have mine on, or you can picket in the street in front of my house. But make no mistake, you're still not coming in my house with your shoes on.

Now which one seems more productive?
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Posted 01/20/2009   10:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
At first I thought ebay may have been a bit extreme with their blockade of Nazi material..but where do you draw the line ? I remember this one guy at the White Plains show that all he sold was the Nazi propaganda stuff.. I walked way around his booth..i didnt like his face !!
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Posted 01/20/2009   10:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Those rules were broken and the seller got caught but got away with one. It's that simple.


Didn't know there was a rule against philatelic material.

We're not talking flags, arm bands, and uniforms.
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Edited by modern_who - 01/20/2009 10:18 am
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Posted 01/20/2009   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a rule against Nazi symbols (been there for years), they directed you right to it in Their email.
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Posted 01/20/2009   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have disabled the hateful/hated images.
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Posted 01/20/2009   10:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't say you couldn't post them here. If I wanted them removed they would have been long ago. I just respect ebay's decision to draw the line where they did.
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Posted 01/20/2009   10:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's true, but this is a lesson.

And I'm not saying it's not ebay's call.
I just think political correctness has
narrowed their minds and limited their
prospects.
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Edited by modern_who - 01/20/2009 11:11 am
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