Blue Franklin ID Assist Please? #24?

This isn't a straight forward stamp at all. It is a Plate 4, F relief stamp. It could be a #19, #19b, #21, or a #22. The stamp needs to be plated but it is most likely a #22.

I love hearing good news. Grats!

Jeff, Ray may be able to plate it for you when he gets back--he's out-of-town.

Wow that's really something! I knew that if there was anything about this that a few of you would know. I'm very thankful for the ID and the plating of it would be the icing on the cake! Again Thank you. -Jeff

I concur on plate 4, F relief. The White arrow shows the frame break shown on all plate 4 - F relief stamps. These come from the 6th and 10th rows of both panes (L & R).
Plating will take a little as we only have 2 sides to work with, left and top. Perhaps a higher resolution scan or maybe break the scan in half ?

I'll see if he'll scan it with higher resolution for you. Thanks again you guys! You're amazing when it comes to these! -Jeff

OK, sorry for the delay but here is a scan of this stamp @1200 dpi.



I darkened the image a little bit here to show off the detail a little better. I don't know if that will help or not but here it is anyway.

Ray, Art, Russ or Sinclair Here is that 1200dpi scan you wanted. I hope this helps some? Do you still think it's a possible #19, #19b, #21, or a #22? Is plating the only way to nail it down? If it is then it's likely we'll never know because plating is way over my head! I understand the fundamentals of how it works and why but it's just too complicated for me at this moment in time. Thank you. -Jeff

Unfortunately the plating marks might all be at the bottom of the Stamp. I had a look through the Plate 4, F relief Stamps last night and could not come up with a match. Maybe one of the others can spot something I missed.

Thank you Stallzer it's really appreciated far more than you know! I really just need a safe number to mark it so it can get put into my friends album. He's like me and isn't too concerned about value. It is nice that he just found the floating in an old collection lot he bought for cheap. Why can't I ever find stuff like that you know?? lol

Sinclair, what else do you see that makes it most likely a 22? You're always spot on with these one cent Franklins. Definitely a plate 4 F relief. Stallzer pointed out what gives that away, the small colorless "line". Like Stallzer, I couldn't come up with an exact match from the plate 4 F reliefs at Slingshot Venus. Possibly one of the plates that's still missing from the archive.

If you don't get a definite answer, I'd go with Sinclairs educated guess of #22. I'd also note that it's a plate 4 F relief so could also be a 19, 19b or 21.

If it weren't for Sinclair, Ray.mac, Stallzer, Art and a few others here, I still wouldn't know how to sort these stamps into more than 2 types. Perf and imperf.

raymodj,

Many tenth row stamps, which are all F relief stamps, will exhibit some signs of a dry printing. I don't see any evidence of a dry print on this stamp. If you assume the stamp is a sixth row F relief, odds are it is a Type IIIa. Nineteen of the F-6 positions are Type IIIa, #22, three of them eventually turned into Type III stamps. One F-6 position, 54L, is a Type III.

I do believe this stamp is 59R4, a Type IIIa, Scott #22. I cannot be certain without a better image or seeing the stamp in hand.

The USPCS has scanned and uploaded the entire Neinken book and is free for all to see. As a paying member, I sort of think you should have to join first but I am not running the show!

Thanks Sinclair. What a wealth of material! Ashbrook, Chase, Neinken, Brookman, Cole... I'd join USPCS right now, but I don't have two philatelic trade references. Nor one, for that matter. I think what I will do is make a one time donation. Now I just need to find time to read at least half the books in their electronic library, starting with Neinken of course.

I think you are correct. I browsed through the Plate reconstruction in Neinkens book and did not notice that the 59R4 was not shown there.

Going back a few pages I found his 2 examples (Imperforate and perforated) shown of the 59R4 and that is as close of a match as I've seen.