Banknote Era Cancels

I have a 73 in album otherwise I would buy yours.

I had to kinda had to chuckle your SC#755 huge jumbo, lol

They are all jumbos the 755s

I have the full farley sheet on those imperf catalog (singles)unused $0.60 your price is $25.00

your sc71 franklin SF wagon wheel cog looks cool

i see you have duck stamps I just ordered a bunch of those a section also working on in my album.

Larry,

I hope you recognize that the sunburst style cancel you have on that 6c is not the SF cogwheel. It has a different configuration and is later. The first 20 patent cancels Cole lists look similar to yours. Have you checked the back of the stamp for paper "pimples" corresponding to the obverse dots in the center of the strike? I'd like to see if they are there.

BTW you might want to double check your identification of the stamps you showed on that album page. If the paper on the 6c is hard paper, as I think it is, then that stamp belongs with the earlier group for Continental. Also, the two ten cent stamps you are showing both look more like 209 than the 187-188 combo that belong there. The scan is not detailed enough for me to be absolutely certain, but I'm more than 75% sure for the stamp on the right, and about 50% sure for the stamp on the left.

yes I get it, was noticing the other sunbursts and then noticed the sf cog wheel ones my eye is separating them and noticing the different names for some.

i would be very suspect of my album as I learn I have found misplaced items one I had perfs in non perf place and one I had a green instead of vermillion-my Washington Franklin head stamps are very sporadic due to no clue on those, I used mystic stamp co since they number their cards they send to you and those should be correct but others yes I would believe you if said misplaced. dunno how I got that one there anyway...1847-1920 in my album is a mine field of need to double check.

the one you saw is an early one put in this album many years ago and not hinged but glue stick used- it cannot be lifted up as with a hinge to look at the back- inspection of the front shows your pinhole ink marks but holes can't be detected so much. it looks smooth and un punctured.

Is this a SF cogwheel?

Yes, that is a San Francisco cogwheel cancel - and a nice strike! There are some variations to this cancel (all from San Francisco) in size and, I think, number of cogs.

Thank you!

My deepest appreciation and thanks to Mr. Weiss, essayk, and others, for their contributions to this thread, and the information shared. I have been offline for a few days, and will certainly, as someone else suggested we'd all be doing, diving into my stockbooks, looking for any other marks like the one Mr. Weiss pointed out. Thank you, sir for taking the time to comment on that, and sharing your knowledge, that I might be better able to understand what I am seeing.

essayk, thank you for the advice about not lifting it from the paper. I am not doing that to anything, at the moment, since I have never done it before. I want to make sure, when I do, it is the right ones to do it to, and will seek advice here, before making any attempt, on any of them. That particular one will stay right where it is.

I am learning even more, with the posts being made, the discussions of other collections, so please keep sharing.

Hi all

If someone knows this type of cancel?



Vangelis

Here's one of my favorite Cogwheels, along with a decent array of other markings.

Here's an Indian Head from Damon's Crossing, Vermont

Glenn Estus

docgfd what a pretty cover (and how I wish my example was still affixed).

Is there any indication where it was missent since it took almost one month to reach its recipient?

Hi Jenny - the 'missent' handstamp was applied at Hudson, NY (Columbia County) along with the target obliterator in duplex with the double circle date stamp. The cover was addressed to Newburgh, NY (Orange County) situated south of Hudson, so it likely took a couple of more days to get to its correct destination vs the November 12, 1866 date in the Hudson marking. The bulk of the time in transit was from the left to the right coast. Since backstamps were not really in use during this era, we'll never know how many days it took to get from Hudson to its proper destination, and it could very well have been on that same day.

New York Foreign Mail cancels.

Glenn - that's a great strike of the usually weak Indian Head profile cancel. Did you use Cole's Cancellation book to ID this (JO-162), or does it have other provenance?