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Posted 07/31/2014   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an yet unidentified (at least in the Skinner-Eno catalog) Patriotic shield fancy cork.

Edit: I also thought of maybe one of the "Acorn" corks or maybe it's a "flower" cork for this design? At any rate I can't find a proper I.D. number for it (them) anyway?




Here is an 1869 locomotive (#114) with a negative A cancel. This one I also can't find in the catalogs so if you aor anyone can ID these I'd be very grateful to you!

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Posted 07/31/2014   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a rather mundane geometrical cancel but what makes this cover so interesting (in my opinion at least) is besides Josiah Leeds being the recipient is the backstamp. It's quite odd and I've never seen another besided the two I have? Anyone know anything about this squate date stamp?

Front:



Back:



Close-up:



Below is a close-up of the other one I own:

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Posted 07/31/2014   10:14 am  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The box marking on the back is a receiving mark at Philadelphia.

Regarding the fancy cancels on Scott 114, Skinner/Eno lists many known cancels, but is not exhaustive. For some cancel types it was considered a survey to provide useful examples, knowing there may be 10's or 100's of additional different ones out there.

There is also the Cancellations Found on 19th Century U. S. Stamps by Kenneth A> Whitfield (published by the U.S. Cancelation Club in 2002) that covers this era and other later cancels as well.

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Posted 07/31/2014   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few fancy type cancels that I enjoy. I won't "junk-up" your thread with any more as these aren't banknote era but to be fair there is a few non-banknote era fancies posted previously so I assume it's OK if not just say the word and I'll whack 'em OK? :)

Of course I had to show these off...errr I mean share them (My hometown of Jersey Shore Pa.)





And here is a circle of wedges type cancel (mess) fer ya!



Here is a nice SOTN target but the CDS looks like the postmaster really slammed the postmark device down on her hard!



A Boston "PAID" cancel oval.



Here is a crossroads style cork but the font of the CDS is what really strikes my fancy! Beautiful in my opinion. It just looks fun.



OK, Last one! Here is a Maltese type fancy cancel for ya!

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Posted 07/31/2014   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much orstampman!


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The box marking on the back is a receiving mark at Philadelphia.

Regarding the fancy cancels on Scott 114, Skinner/Eno lists many known cancels, but is not exhaustive. For some cancel types it was considered a survey to provide useful examples, knowing there may be 10's or 100's of additional different ones out there.

There is also the Cancellations Found on 19th Century U. S. Stamps by Kenneth A> Whitfield (published by the U.S. Cancellation Club in 2002) that covers this era and other later cancels as well.

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Posted 07/31/2014   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh crap! I forgot one (OK maybe 4) fancy cancels that ARE actually BANKNOTE ERA!!

Purple star from Curwensville, Pa. (1894)?



Here is an odd target from Benezette, Pennsylvania. Popular because it's Where the native Pennsylvania Elk live.



Here is yet another very popular of the era the generic "X" or crossroads cancell if you must make it sound romantic...lol From EMPORIUM PA. (just an hour north of my current location Clearfield.) and addressed to Williamsport, Pa.



Here is a curious little cork wedges/crossroads cancel also, from Williamsport, Pa. near my hometown (& home of the Little Leauge World Series!) Corner card advert from a large lumber mill popular in Williamsport during the lumber boon era! Lot's of OLD money in that town.

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Posted 07/31/2014   11:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a small banknote with an interesting machine cancel worthy of note as a curiosity I guess? more info on this cover here- https://goscf.com/t/34125&SearchTerms=Silk,soap

BattleStamps said:

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"Barr-Fyke machine cancel. The vertical bars are usually 20mm and longer on a Barr-Fyke while those of a Doremus are 15mm or less. Barr-Fyke's mostly disappear by 1905 from use."



Here is an interesting & fascinating "wt1 intervention" on this manufacturer too!

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Peet Brothers was a Kansas based soap manufacturer that was founded in 1872. Their products included Crystal White Laundry Soap, Crystal White Soap Flakes, Creme Oil Toilet Soap, Imperial Peroxide Toilet Soap, Sea Foam Naphtha Washing Powder, Borax Washing Compound, and many others. The company's main plant was located in Kansas City.

In 1864, Caleb Johnson founded a soap company called B.J. Johnson Soap Co., in Milwaukee. In 1898, this company introduced a soap made of palm and olive oils, called Palmolive. It was so successful that that the B.J. Johnson Soap Co. changed their name to Palmolive in 1917. In 1927, Palmolive merged with Peet Brothers to became Palmolive Peet.

In 1926, soap manufacturers Palmolive and Peet merge to become Palmolive-Peet Company.

In 1928, Colgate merged with Palmolive-Peet to become Colgate-Palmolive-Peet Company.

In 1953, the Colgate-Palmolive-Peet Company name was simplified to Colgate-Palmolive.
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Posted 07/31/2014   12:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

LarryBruce:

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Funny you don't notice things until discussed here a bit, "cancels", I have been seeing the sunburst cancel with a bulls eye inside it described on some ebay stamps as "The San Francisco Cog Wheel".


essayk:

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Larry,

I hope you recognize that the sunburst style cancel you have on that 6c is not the SF cogwheel. It has a different configuration and is later. The first 20 patent cancels Cole lists look similar to yours. Have you checked the back of the stamp for paper "pimples" corresponding to the obverse dots in the center of the strike? I'd like to see if they are there.


I thought this PDF file might enlighten you on the San Francisco Cogwheel cancellations?

http://www.rfrajola.com/rm/RM.pdf
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Posted 07/31/2014   3:08 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeff,

On any of your covers with incomplete cancellations (take, for instance, your 114 with Andover, Md. CDS), have you considered checking ebay for covers listed with similar markings? If you can capture a complete image of the fancy cancel on cover with the corresponding CDS, you have the beginnings of your own fancy cancel database. Now that I think about it, one could take up the task of capturing images of covers listed on ebay and write their own book on Cancellations!

If only I had more time ...

Brian
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Posted 07/31/2014   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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take, for instance, your 114 with Andover, Md. CDS


Correction: That Andover CDS is not Maryland but, in fact, Massachusetts. It's abbreviated in the archaic way "Ms."
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You know Bill (wt1) I believe you're absolutely correct! I actually done a Google search and both Maryland and Mass. and Missouri all came up so I'm very thankful that you cleared up my confusion! I also am betting that the negative "A" is from Andover itself? I think it's a pretty safe bet? Of course I was also thinking Masonic too but I am more leaning toward the "A" as it just makes sense to me anyway? Whaddaya think about that?

@Brian (Rileysan) I actually do do that but to a lesser extent than you have described. It would be an awfully great resource for such things!
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Here's another Andover, Ms. (Mass.) postmark from the Civil War era. Below the image is the ebay listing where the cover is currently for sale:



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Historic-Ci...em418481dfc4

As to your example of the Andover, Ms. postmark, it was previously discussed a couple of years ago in this thread:

https://goscf.com/t/22170&SearchTerms=Andover
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Tic-Tac-Toe





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Posted 07/31/2014   9:31 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
orstampman - thanks for the kudos.

Here is one more I am probably going to get:


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"And may I humbly request that anyone referring to me in a thread, *PLEASE* call me "Bill" instead of "Mr. Weiss"! Thanks so much......"



Very well then, and thank you....

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