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Attn : Tipzi... 482A On Cover ?

 
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Posted 07/12/2014   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add disi123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The color is right, the date is right...
my old 300dpi scanner doesn't show the
stamp very well, though...





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Posted 07/12/2014   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The toga button on your example has weak lines as does a 482. The 482a toga button has clear strong lines. The exact color is more difficult to determine, so I won't even tackle that one.
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Posted 07/12/2014   10:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your commentary... but the
only problem with that logic is that
the 482 is Carmine, and the 482a is
deep rose... this stamp is deep rose...

I can do a side by side for you of
carmine and deep rose, if you'd like...
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Posted 07/13/2014   07:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The problem with that logic is that the shade is NOT the determining factor here, the design characteristics are.
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Posted 07/13/2014   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are multiple shades of the 482, deep rose being one of them. As stated, the design characteristics are the key.
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Posted 07/15/2014   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wash 500 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I may be getting myself in trouble again for trying to ID from a scan but it does not appear to have type 1a toga line and button.
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Posted 07/15/2014   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wash_500 ... after the discussion in another thread
with Tipzi... I am no longer a believer in the "classic"
Ia details... i.e. rope line and button... there are
other details which come into play... most especially
the process which produced them and the die and plates...

Heretoforth, I'll only accept Tipzi's statements as to
what is and isn't a Ia... conventional data, even as
perceived to be "long establshed and long accepted" is
*not* always the case...
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Edited by disi123 - 07/15/2014 10:35 pm
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Posted 07/15/2014   10:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd...=&certsymbol[]=All&subtype[]=All&certcolor=&keyoper=both&keyword=&recsperpage=10&pscolumn=default&sortord=DESC&calledfrom=lkp
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Posted 07/15/2014   10:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd...=&certsymbol[]=All&subtype[]=All&certcolor=&keyoper=both&keyword=&recsperpage=10&pscolumn=default&sortord=DESC&calledfrom=lkp


Thank you... but I don't see anyone from the
PF participating on this board... so, until
I see them, they are and Tipzi is
until I see otherwise...

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Posted 07/16/2014   01:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
There are multiple shades of the 482, deep rose being one of them.


Unfortunately, the deep rose 482's are like
the weakest 499's and do (not) have strong
detail such as this... see below...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...&_sacat=3461

*And*... the 482 Shermack is listed in Carmine *only*...

There goes (that) logic...

Next...

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Edited by disi123 - 07/16/2014 02:03 am
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Posted 07/16/2014   09:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tipzi ?

Link ?



Scratching head ?
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Posted 07/16/2014   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
LB, Tipzi is a new member that has joined the community.
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Posted 07/16/2014   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
LB, Tipzi is a new member that has joined the community.


... a very *brilliant* member, whom,
unfortunately, is not on very much...
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Posted 07/16/2014   1:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
LB, you might remember him from VSC.
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Posted 07/16/2014   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most first issue revenues are only listed in one or occasionally two shades, but any collector of first issues knows that many exist in several different shades most of which were deliberately done. Being "listed" does not automatically prove anything about what is NOT listed.
If you want to think that only the shade matters, and not the physical characteristics of the design, more power to you. And if you want to think that the clear photos of the 482A on the PF site, which CLEARLY show those characteristics are meaningless because no one from the PF has written to you personally, again more power to you. Everyone would rather have a $60,000 stamp than a 25 cent one, no matter what they have to overlook to get think they have it.
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