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Sc# 413 Two Cent Washington Coil Pair With Plate Number Mnh

 
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Posted 07/25/2014   12:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add disi123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sc-413-Two-...em5b02cf7992

Could be faked from 409... both have plate 6784... thoughts anyone?

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Posted 07/25/2014   07:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Possible...
because both are flat plate stamps printed
from the same plate, diff cat #s.
looks ok to me.
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Posted 07/25/2014   10:11 am  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am certainly not an expert on w/f issues, but this one is a first for me - can coils have selvage and plate #s attached? I have never seen it mentioned in Scott. Sadly, my "Expert's book" is at home so I can't reference it ...

My knee-jerk opinion is that this is a blatant forgery made from 409

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Edited by Rileysan - 07/25/2014 10:12 am
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Posted 07/25/2014   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kcaramat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The coils would have been pasted together. The plate number would be hidden under the tab. I suppose with very careful soaking or steaming someone could have removed the overlapping stamp. Or they may have taken the pair prior to making the coil.
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Posted 07/25/2014   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
kc... good points... my main suspicion lies in the middle
and right perfs lining up so perfectly...
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Posted 07/25/2014   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I doubt this would get a good cert. Perfs look too perfect to me.
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Posted 07/25/2014   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A 1200 DPI scan is needed, although 600 DPI might work if the quality of the .jpg file is reasonably high. Pressure ridges should be visible. Richard Kiusalas had a perf 8 1/2 machine but the coils he made had perforation holes aligned between rows. He took orders and would perforate an entire imperf roll to order.

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Posted 07/25/2014   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does not look MNH to me???
Could be...but...
Thats why I hate scans of gum...
They do not show well
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Posted 07/25/2014   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like LH or VLH... (((scratches balding head)))
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Posted 07/25/2014   4:37 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely need a better resolution scan. The perforation holes look a bit too clean and circular to me.

As mentioned before, this plate number in the attached selvage could be OK, since they pasted strips together, and someone may have carefully soaked it apart.
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or... yep... chances are at least 50/50 it's "Richard Kiusalas Issue"...
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Posted 07/26/2014   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DuncanDoenitz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it possible that the plate number happened to be at either end of a completed roll of 100, and therefore was never pasted up?
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