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Very Rare 1c 1851 Strip

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Posted 12/20/2014   9:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Newby Stamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder? I thought it was beauty was in the eye of the beer holder.[
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Posted 12/20/2014   9:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm curious what people think about listing this on ebay for a fixed price vs. consigning it to a major auction house. I would think that an item such as this would fetch a better price in a live bidding environment, whereas putting it up for a fixed price might lead buyers to focus more on the faults, and wait to see whether the price comes down.
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Posted 12/20/2014   10:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Less expensive for the seller to use ebay. I "question" listing it for a fixed price vs. open bidding...on ebay.
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Posted 12/20/2014   10:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
At an auction the bidding would definitely be on the #5, and it would be all but guaranteed that the dealer who bought it would remove that stamp. But the likelihood is that it would go for 20%-25% of the #5 cat, or about 10%-12% of the strip cat. The #5 is just not that nice overall to bring in the collectors with the big bucks to chase it. And anyone who can truly afford to buy the strip will wait for a nice one.
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Posted 12/20/2014   10:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hieronymus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, but what you all are overlooking is that this is the "last one". That's going to bring in the bidders. I have to give the seller credit for a sense of humor. In red letters next to the scan one reads "last one" -- bid now before it's too late.

Oops! That's what I see when it's in my shopping cart. I hit the wrong button and it went into my shopping cart. THat's when the "last one" in red appeared.

I removed it safely, despite trembling fingers.
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Posted 12/29/2014   2:04 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Is there a special trimming device that would be used to separate the right stamp from the other two? If I survived the heart attack of buying the stamp, I'd probably have one trying to separate the strip. Stephen


I would never cut this strip unless I was forcibly made to do it.

In that case, a paper cutter or sharp pair of scissors would suffice, but I would personally place a stright-edge over the #5 and use a razor knife with a brnad-new blade to cut them apart.

Brian
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Posted 12/29/2014   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It seems to me that there would be greater philatelic value to keep the strip together. Of course philatelic value and money value are not always or even often the same thing.
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Posted 12/29/2014   5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Scott Type 1b,1b and 1 (5A,5A,5) which I believe is the rarest combo strip possible


That should be reason enough to keep them intact. After 160 years there can't be more than a couple multiples (if any) of this combinatioon left in the world.
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Posted 12/29/2014   6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No way in the world do you break up this strip. If one is only interested in owning a fault-free #5, one has it whether or not it is attached to a faulty #5A.
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Posted 12/30/2014   12:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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No way in the world do you break up this strip. If one is only interested in owning a fault-free #5, one has it whether or not it is attached to a faulty #5A.



Amen! But if I was going to cut out the #5, I would use a sharp scissors.
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Posted 12/30/2014   01:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Amen! But if I was going to cut out the #5, I would use a sharp scissors.


I'd use a Showgard mount cutter for a nice, clean straight cut...
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Posted 12/30/2014   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Understand, my statement about cutting it was not a recommendation, but grading has made this type of thing all too common. Plenty of dealers would do it in a heartbeat if it meant more money.
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Posted 12/30/2014   10:12 am  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Understand, my statement about cutting it was not a recommendation, but grading has made this type of thing all too common. Plenty of dealers would do it in a heartbeat if it meant more money.


I think most of us understood you, but clarification doesn't hurt.

I most certainly agree - there are peopl who would break this strip apart to fit a single #5 into their collection. I hope this strip finds its way into the hands of a collector who wishes to preserve this very rare strip the way it is.

Thank you once again, Bill Weiss, for bringing this strip to our attention. I love the education I receive from posts like yours!

Brian
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Posted 01/04/2015   02:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree wholeheartedly - to me, it feels as though it would be criminal to break up a piece such as this. And I still wonder about the value of doing such a thing, especially considering that the #5 has the LL ball and plume cut away, which presumably would detract significantly from the grade on that stamp as a single. I just don't see how that would extract more value than selling the strip as a whole.
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Posted 01/04/2015   09:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StevieG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All very interesting. Even an inexperienced collector like myself knows that once cut, you can't uncut it. I hope it stays intact forever.
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