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Posted 11/16/2014   06:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add acanalizo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I received 2 strips of 25 from SFC, Item # 776503 of the 49˘ Red, White & Blue ( 4 diff images ) from a 10k roll , one strip had the regular plate coil number C11 and the other had a C12 plate coil number. I also had order another strip of 25 of the Spectrum Eagle stamps issued in 2012 hoping to find the new plate coil number V11112 and also the Plate number P3333 on the 5c Art Deco Bird, no luck, but was able to get the P2222 on the Self-Adhesive 1˘ Bobcat
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Posted 11/18/2014   11:30 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Any difference under UV light between the RW&B C11 & C12?
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Posted 11/30/2014   06:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add acanalizo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The PNC C11 on Red, White & Blue has a bright white overall tagging while the C12 has an dingy, yellow-greenish over tagging.

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Edited by acanalizo - 11/30/2014 4:04 pm
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Posted 11/30/2014   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It was reported here by Linn's Stamp News:

http://linns.com/news/us-stamps/103...number-found
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Posted 11/30/2014   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add omxfl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the Linn's article:
"There were no changes to paper, ink or die-cutting that would have resulted in a new variety or other special treatment."
BUT, if the tagging is different, shouldn't it deserve a sub-Scott number at least?
And why isn't there a special order number for the new print from USPS? They are usually good when it comes to reprints...
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The answer lies in the fact that CCL had a new paper supplier. The paper is the same, but the supplier uses a new self-adhesive laminate process. In order to keep track of this CCL asked the Postal Service for permission to change one digit of the plate number.

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Posted 11/30/2014   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suppose I should also link this Linn's Stamp News article pertaining to the plate number change in the Spectrum Eagle Coil, because of a change in paper supplier:

http://linns.com/news/us-stamps/101...-coil-stamps
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Posted 11/30/2014   10:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add acanalizo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
UPDATE: When I look at C11 under UV it appears a very bright white color as a sheet of white paper but when I look at C12 under UV it appears a yellow-green, dingy color which I am taking for an overall tag - could it be just the change in paper causing this?

Could someone verify my findings when a C12 shows up in their hands and compare if your C12 tagging is yellowish-green as compared to the C11?
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Posted 12/02/2014   01:35 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Omxfl - The C11 paper has brighteners that the C12 apparently lacks - Scott never gives a sub number for hibrite vs dead paper variations.
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Posted 12/02/2014   10:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add omxfl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, eyeonwall.

I called SFS yesterday and wanted to order the reprint in addition to a few other items. Unfortunately, it did not exist in their catalog (just yet) and I didn't want to play the lottery either and order by chance... It is quite sad that these reprints are not being sold as such. And there is not much consistency either as the earlier Purple Heart reprint is available even though it is identical to the previously issued stamp - only the plate number tells the story.
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Posted 12/15/2014   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just received Scott #4896 with a C12 plate number in my SFS order of 25 of the RW&B coil stamps today:



Now my dilemma: What's the proper collecting format for a strip of the 4 different stamps? Should it be a strip of 9 (with the PNC in the center position) and the 4 different stamps on either side of the PNC? Or should it follow the Scott Catalog Number sequence of #4894-4897 (which would place the PNC off-center as I understand the PNC is always in the 3rd position of any strip of 4)?

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Posted 12/15/2014   6:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add acanalizo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I personally use the PNC5 for these types(4 different stamps) as most collectors for economic reasons, however some save as PNC9 or more to have stamps in a certain order.

UPDATE:
Scott 2015 Specialized US list P# strip of 5 @ $7.00 and P# strip of 9 @ $12.00 (Single stamp @ $1, strip of 4 @ $4.00)
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Posted 12/15/2014   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wt1, I do not have this dilemma as I do not collect modern stamps any longer. Also, strips of 4 (PS4) are no longer in vogue. The PNC3 club prices these strips as PS9. The Red, White and Blue has not been priced yet, but the Flag for all Seasons of last year is listed as a plate strip of 9.

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Posted 12/15/2014   8:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, all. I'll go with the strip of 9 for collecting purposes. After all, if the collecting community decides to change to a smaller strip for collecting, I can always break it down at some future time whereas you can't add to a strip that is already smaller in size.
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Posted 12/18/2014   2:13 pm  Show Profile Check philatomic's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add philatomic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott typically numbers se-tenent coils such that the stamp with the plate number is centered within a strip long enough to include all the designs.

It's tough to get a strip of 9 out of a strip of 25 from the cave without a fold in it.
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