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Posted 11/19/2014   5:14 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Stamps1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have been buying US stamps via want list from a Linn's advertiser. My problem seems to be his pricing seems ok on the less expensive stuff. On the items that catalog $10 or more, he just seems unrealistic.

Examples: Scott #2544A is priced at $ 29.00. #2543 $9.00. Both are available on ebay for much less- the 2544A for well under $20.

I understand I am paying a bit extra for convenience but I am starting to think perhaps I would be better off buying as I was- a combination of Bardo Stamps and higher priced moderns individually on ebay. Any thoughts?
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Posted 11/19/2014   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Wow. Those are real high.
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Posted 11/19/2014   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Different possibilities maybe.

The dealer could be using older US grading to judge his pricing by, see the front pages of a Scott catalog.

He is financing Christmas. Probably not.

He is using mint prices instead of used (if you collect used that is).

Others maybe also . . .


You could also try US based sellers on www.delcampe.com or .net for worldwide sellers. They have a selling singles idea also, as well as Prestige stores and other stores.

The site is based in Europe so seems a tad ddifferent but just watch for sellers using PayPal perhaps.

I buy from www.ebay.com/b/260/" rel="nofollow">ebay or Delcampe usually, not minding buying worldwide at all. Neat envelopes and cancels and stamps. Some sellers don't know what they have so know your stuff.
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Posted 11/19/2014   6:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Price is not the only factor, of course; there's timeliness of service, ease of dealing, and quality of material, among others. ebay is a wild frontier on many of these. Personally, I'm happy to pay a premium to a dealer to have confidence in the other factors. I use all channels depending on the item and my price sensitivity - retail stores, auctions, dealers by mail, dealers at shows, ebay, online clubs, local clubs.

They all have their pros and cons, but for me, having a personal, trusted relationship with a dealer is much more important than price. As an example, recently at a show I paid north of $200 for a MNH US issue with certificate. When I got home, I realized the certificate was for the correct issue, but the wrong stamp; the margins and perfs were different in the image on the cert compared to the actual stamp. I mailed it back to the dealer and he promptly sent me a $25 check as a credit. Try that on ebay.
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Posted 11/19/2014   6:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When I first joined the APS, I went to the stamp store and found lots of esoteric stuff from my collecting area that nobody was interested in but to me were one of the kind items and I was willing to pay a premium. Now I go back and no new fun esoteric stuff is appearing and the prices really are not that reasonable.
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Posted 11/19/2014   7:46 pm  Show Profile Check philatelia7's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add philatelia7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've been selling off my mint USA to my friends in my club for 60% of Scotts which I think is really reasonable. Some say I'm too low, some say I'm too high, but I feel like Goldilocks - seems just right to me!
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Posted 11/19/2014   9:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
60% can be good or bad....
Quality is everything....
It works both ways...
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Posted 11/20/2014   12:27 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott #2544A is priced at $ 29.00. #2543 $9.00 - that is unrealistic.
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Posted 11/20/2014   04:20 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
philatelia7

The auction house (real, not ebay) that I use typically estimates its large lots of decimal GB at around 50% of face - of couse, collector interest in particular material might push the price higher. US can be obtained here at a lower rate, but then, we can't use it on letters! I'd probably hang on to the stuff for postal use, rather than take a 40% hit.

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Posted 11/20/2014   05:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Stamp and Coin Shop closest to me buys Mint at 20% face value and sells at 60% Face Value.
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Posted 11/20/2014   09:09 am  Show Profile Check philatelia7's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add philatelia7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you might have misread my comment - I sell for 60% of Scott's Catalog value, not 60% of face. Most of my collection was plate number singles, booklets and full panes - not junk. I decided to sell most of my mint collections and downsize. I moved from Michigan to Florida and I don't want to keep all this mint in the tropics! I prefer used anyways - every used stamp is unique!
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Posted 11/20/2014   10:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1962:

You should check out Murphy -- I've mentioned him before. I had a very positive experience with him when completing my Modern USA collection. Since I shared his contact info, I think others have also had positive experiences.

See this thread for contact details:
https://goscf.com/t/38956

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Posted 11/20/2014   10:47 am  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all replies. I don't mind paying a bit extra for timeliness and service. These prices are above the threshold I have on this. It may be time to make up an excuse and find another source. He also does approvals and his whole stock may be a bit higher priced to compensate for losses there. He has a good stock but then so do a lot of others, many more reasonable than this guy. Will mull this over and then decide..

Kirk- I checked out Murphy's web site. It refers to browsing other pages on the site but I can just pull up the home page. Do you have a link for his price list?
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Edited by Stamps1962 - 11/20/2014 10:53 am
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Posted 11/20/2014   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No -- as I mentioned in the other post -- his website is VERY archaic. If you look closely at the BOTTOM of the page, there are TABS at the very bottom with Scott # Ranges. It's like an Excel Spreadsheet that has been converted to a webpage ?

http://www.murphs-stamps.com/

Kirk
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Posted 11/20/2014   11:21 am  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, found the tabs, boy they are hard to see. Am very impressed with this guy's prices, low overhead apparently, or something. Anyway I think I may get in touch with him, but by now maybe after the Holidays, thanks!
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Posted 11/21/2014   12:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if it's the case with this dealer, but I've noticed that some dealers have high list prices but then offer some fairly decent discounts once you go over a certain dollar amount. Knowing that they'll be discounting most orders, they keep their standard prices artificially high. Personally I would prefer that a fair price be put forward and have that be the end of it, but I understand why dealers might do it that way.
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