Scott 560 With Cpr Perfin

I came across this Scott 560 with "CPR" perfin and it seems to be for the Canadian Pacific Railway according to the BNAPS catalog. My question is I also found information from the The Perfin Club which also shows another CPR Perfin possibly being of the Corn Products Refining Company. Does anyone have an actual scan of this type so I can determine which it actually is. I've added scans of both front and back. I'm rather new to "Perfins" and wasn't aware a company from Canada would use US stamps with their Perfin. So If someone has information regarding this I would also like to know if that was a practice. Thanks in advance!
Don

I have one similar to yours (although not in the best shape) and it has a control pin under the "C" in "CPR" presumably to identify the location where the perfin was used. In this case, you can tell by the precancel: New York, NY:



Many railroads, businesses and other entities had perfins they used in the US, Canada, as well as other countries where they had business interests and are often slightly different from each other:



If you're interested to see a Canadian example of the "CPR" perfin, checkout this link:

http://www.stampcollectingroundup.b...perfins.html

Incidentally, your example looks as if it had a clogged or broken pin as there is a pinhole missing in the "R" of "CPR".

Thanks wt1, Makes sense...just wasn't sure foreign companies did that. I also noticed the "R" missing pin and there's not even an indentation which supprised me. In other examples I've found partial or missing punch marks but not like this where its devoid of any mark or indentation. Likely a missing pin having been broken off prior to this stamp being punched. Appreciate the response and examples. The control hole on yours is a nice find too! Perfins being new to my interests, its all an added education.

Stampnut - the stamp you show is the Corn Products C278 perfin.

I see it now: The "C" is a different shape in the original posted scan.

Maybe we can also confirm if the missing pin in the "R" is truly because of a clogged or broken pin or if could be some sort of control ID.

R is broken pin [I know of no instance where a MISSING pin is an identifying control, only EXTRA pins]

Thanks Chasa! Well I guess I'm back to being unsure. Shame there is no easier way to make identification 100% clear. I can't find a Corn Products C278 example...so I'll keep searching and maybe I'll find one and be able to reach a conclusion. Perfins are tuff...but interesting.

In looking up Corn Products Refining Company (makers of Karo and Mazola Oil) I note they had offices in both Illinois and New York. Does anyone know if they used a different perfin at each location or were they both the same?

Seeing this thread, I had to check. I have two Canadian stamps with CPR perfin. One is separated, reading down like all of the other examples shown. The other reads up.

maybe this will help - from the US perfins reference:

My perfins don't quite line up with the C281 reference, and the "P" has an extra dot. Hmm! Thanks for the info, Chasa.

my reference only lists CPR's known on US stamps... There is a good Canada perfins reference free online. They may be found in there.

Since we've established the original scan is perfin C278 with the letters going in the downward direction, the ID is Corn Products Refining Co., Chicago.

I assume their factory in Waukegan, IL as shown on the postcard below would have been part of their greater Chicago operations:

Thanks chasa & wt1, It looks like Corn Products Refining Co in Chicago is what I have and I do appreciate the post card. I think I will look into purchasing a catalog for perfins as there is far more information I'd like available and I can see being very helpful.
Thanks again for the responses and assistance.

On a related (but, a distant cousin) topic, I have a few used OS Perfins from Victoria, Australia, which I can't evaluate because I don't have access to a Scott Specialized Catalog.
I'm guessing each one is more valuable than the value of one not perfined; but, would like to know if there is a source on the www which will give me the info.
BTW the local library has the 2015 Scott set, but it doesn't have the specialized catalog.

OS perfins from Australia (Victoria) are not necessarily more valuable than non-OS perfins. Please post your examples and we can try to look them up for you.