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My previous post speaks for itself. I have nothing more to say on this thread. |
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stamppaige, its difficult for you to receive a positive identification, a "yes it is" or "no it isn't" from images posted on a web site. Posted images usually don't duplicate the actual stamp color, paper etc. You'll need to consider getting it into the hands of someone with expertize in determining special printing authenticity. The best you'll get here is probably advise regarding how to proceed about getting your concerns answered with certainty. Bill Weiss can get you the answer you need at a reasonable cost. I know you realize the odds are not in your favor, but to know for sure get it look at by Bill or one of the other services that do this  |
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There is one way he can test them himself. The cover is pretty much destroyed as a cover, and someone has removed one stamp from the side with the 5c stamps. Perhaps another 5c? In any case, if he really suspects that he MIGHT have a 205C, then he could cut out the other 5c single and soak it off the paper. If it easily floats free, then he needs to ask whether the stamp had been affixed with its own gum or whether Mora had taken the time to apply a water soluable adhesive to all the 5c stamps originally on the cover.
205C was issued without gum, so anyone using one had to supply their own. Is it any surprise that no used example appears in the census of verified stamps? Getting a cert for a used example will be an uphill battle, and will require a fair amount of substantiating evidence to make good on the claim. As Al Gator pointed out that cannot be done from scans on a website. You will need to consult with a professional. |
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I think essayk has a good answer - it's in the gum. If there was no gum on 205C and it would have to be supplied, what kinds of common would be commonly available at this time? I doubt anything archival and things like rubber cement and molasses would have been used. Both of those adhesives have high sulphur contents and would discolor heavily over time. There would also be adhesive staining around the edges of the stamps and possibly scattered about the cover from adhesive on fingerprints. Only if someone was extremely careful would they prevent traces of adhesive residue from around the edges of the stamps. If the edges of the stamp is clean, it's probably the common gummed issues. |
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Paige,
Bear in mind that only 21 205c's have been certified and none of them are used.
These were issued to collectors and originally issued without gum so the chances of a postally used one popping up are extremely remote.
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Stamppaige I believe you got me mixed-up with "I Break_For_Stamps" However, in my specialized catalog it says
design A56 Scott #205, perf 12, 5¢, yellow brown
Design A56 Scott #205c, perf 12, 5¢, gray brown *~was issued without gum~*
Yours appear to be yellow brown. But like said many many times monitors differ colour so much that if you suspect they are different then sent it to Bill Weiss for a $5.00 proper and official identification and if warranted then a certification would follow. Best of luck to you.
Now about those John J.["Black Jack"] Pershing covers! WOW! Being a WWI aficionado/collector and avid historian I am blown away by these! Are there any contents or any info on the sender? I would quite curious to know!
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Quote:more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J...#World_War_Iwas the general in the United States Army who led the American Expeditionary Forces to victory over Germany in World War I, 1917-18. He rejected British and French demands that American forces be integrated with their armies, and insisted that the AEF would operate as a single unit under his command, although some American divisions fought under British command, and he also allowed all-black units to be integrated with the French army. US forces first saw serious battle at Cantigny, Chateau-Thierry, Belleau Wood, and Soissons. To speed up the arrival of the doughboys, they embarked for France leaving the heavy equipment behind, and used British and French tanks, artillery, airplanes and other munitions. In September 1918 at St. Mihiel the First Army was directly under Pershing's command; it overwhelmed the German salient which they had held for three years. Pershing shifted 600,000 American soldiers to the heavily defended forests of the Argonne, keeping his divisions engaged in hard fighting for 47 days, alongside the French. That victory was one of several factors causing the Germans to call for an armistice, although Pershing himself wanted to continue the war, occupy all of Germany, and permanently destroy German militarism. |
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| Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 03/10/2015 06:49 am |
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Thanks to all. I'm curious, but know that with all the great input that these are common....worth the shot though. |
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