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Posted 03/08/2015   1:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Stamppaige to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this in a pile of covers from Dad.Looks like part of a large envelope. The question is the Garfield 5c stamps a 205-A56 or a 205c-A56? Or am I out in left field. Looks grey-brown. Hope the pix are useful. Any valuation help would be appreciated.







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Posted 03/08/2015   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
At first glance, the closer scan of the 5 cent has a yellowish tint to me, IMO. There are only 22 of the special printings to have been certified. Probably pretty unlikely. Let's see what some others say...


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Posted 03/08/2015   7:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not a special printing.

It's an 8+ x rate cover fragment to Germany.
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Posted 03/08/2015   8:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found the return address of 707 Broadway, New York to be interesting. I wonder if there is any way we could connect that fragment of a cover to this individual. The date of the stamps and the size of the envelope and the overseas mailing to Germany would all suggest that it could be a strong possibility:

http://www.moraphotographer.info/morabiography.htm
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Posted 03/08/2015   10:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see any yellow tint.Looks grey I'll follow up and have other people/lighting. Wt1, good observation on the address and possible sender from the Jose Maria Mora studio. How did you pull that off? I have 3 other postal stationary pieces with the same handwriting to Mrs.R. W. Stettheimer in Berlin. I'll post tomorrow. Don't worry I'm just interested to see what we've got here, a 205c-A56 is valuable. Who am I to have something so rare! To good to be true.lol
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Posted 03/08/2015   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Wt1, good observation on the address and possible sender from the Jose Maria Mora studio. How did you pull that off? I have 3 other postal stationary pieces with the same handwriting to Mrs.R. W. Stettheimer in Berlin.


I didn't do any extensive research, only some simple Google searches for the name and addresss. In fact, I didn't connect all the pieces yet, but the Mora studio (I think) did some Stettheimer photography.

In fact, assuming it's the same person, the addressee on the posted cover, Mrs. R.W. Stettheimer, lived in New York City and was Treasurer of the Ladies' Auxiliary Society of the Montefiore Home for Chronic Invalids, which was organized in May 1888.

I believe the name of the individual is Mrs. Rosetta Walter Stettheimer (1841-1935), who was the mother of several children who became famous in the New York art world, particularly Florine, whose biography is presented below:

http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article...imer-florine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florine_Stettheimer
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Posted 03/09/2015   12:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Who am I to have something so rare!


Stampaige... sometimes it's just the luck of the draw, so to speak...

The following PERSHING COVERS are from a small lot of covers which
I had purchased many years ago... and quite delighted at the find...

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disi123 your second cover is quite interesting. While the handwriting of the addressee matches that of John J. Pershing, the handwriting in the upper left corner doesn't, so it would be interesting to conjecture who wrote it. Also, what's the postmark? It looks like "Dead" something?
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Also, what's the postmark? It looks like "Dead" something?


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Posted 03/09/2015   12:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wt1 and I Love Stamps, I uploaded a closer photo of the stamp on cover (7 more). No yellow tint. Where can I find if this is a 205c-A56.... or not? I also included 3 postal stationarys with the same handwriting to the same address. This is interesting stuff, wouldn't it be something if Mora (?) was using the good stuff to send an envelope.







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Posted 03/09/2015   12:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamppaige,
Did you manipulate the image in your post, it almost looks like you scanned it in greyscale? Perhaps you used one of the application filters? It certainly looks drastically different than the original post. Your original post shows the common #205, they fall within the shades noted in Scott. You can always send them to Bill Weiss and have him ID them for a small fee.
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Posted 03/09/2015   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Studebaker 51, no all of these photos are taken with an iphone 6 in color. I used the light on the camera this time instead of the light bulb used last night.
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Posted 03/09/2015   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How can I contact Bill Weiss?
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Stamppaige,
The Scott Specialized lists a range of shades for 205 of yellow brown, brown, and GRAY BROWN. The previous posting have given you experienced, unanimous and consistent advice that you have a 205, and not a 205C.

For odds, Brookman estimates 167,351,000 of #205 were issue against 22 certitifed copies of 205C. There are countless threads to be found here about the difficulty in judging shades from scans. So even if we concede that your piece tends toward the gray brown end of the spectrum of the printings, you still have plain ordinary 205's, no matter how much you wish it to be different.
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Posted 03/09/2015   12:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can reach Bill at http://www.stampexpertizing.com/

He has a $5 ID service.
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Posted 03/09/2015   12:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John, Of course I look for "different". Don't we all look for rarity? How's about trying to verify one way or the other?. I am not an expert and if you re read my posts I always give in to possibility with things like a question marks, too good to be true, who am I to have something rare, etc. I ask questions and do appreciate any help. Read the posts again John. Sounds like you are pontificating on something different than what's said and meant.
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