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1935 National Parks, Special Printing, Imperforte Ungummed

 
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Posted 04/24/2015   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mlesage1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Trying to determine if a stamp should be where the attached blank is.

I welcome all feedback on this.

Regards,

Mike L.

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Posted 04/24/2015   8:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NO...that is the selvedge
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Posted 04/24/2015   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What you show is Scott 758, from the ungummed, imperforate special printings as you describe in your title line. The width of the selvage and the lack of words printed in the selvage prove it cannot be from 750 or 770. I don't understand Kevin's response.
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Posted 04/24/2015   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is one of the few situations where keeping the selvage intact is helpful in positively identifying the stamp.
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Posted 04/24/2015   9:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't understand Kevin's response.

Do you know what selvedge is???
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Posted 04/24/2015   10:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaffeinatedSquirrel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I know what selvedge is and I don't understand Kevin's response either. I see an imperforate stamp as John said...
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Posted 04/25/2015   01:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike asked, is there supposed to be a stamp in that blank space?
Kevin's replied, no, that space is the selvage.
Simple.
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Posted 04/25/2015   01:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaffeinatedSquirrel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, derp. I thought that was the cover the stamp was stuck on. I was so confused. Lol. That's all one piece of paper. Makes much more sense now.
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Posted 04/25/2015   01:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Glad to see this come up. I have refrained from filling those spaces.
As I am understanding it, the Un-gummed special printing specimens need to have a large selvage. Otherwise if it is trimmed off; it is un-discernable from the other Un-gummed imperforates.
Is this correct?
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Posted 04/25/2015   06:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Mike asked, is there supposed to be a stamp in that blank space?
Kevin's replied, no, that space is the selvage.
Simple.

thank you.


In this issue....3c National Park #758.
Without a selvedge (what I have called it and spelled it for years) it is the same a a #770 ....
which can be trimmed from a S/S .....meaning UNGUMMED!
The #750 is the same, but has GUM!
We are talking about SINGLE stamps....
selvedge/gum on each is the difference factor.

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Posted 04/25/2015   09:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaffeinatedSquirrel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I apologise, Kevin. I thought I was looking at an imperf that had been very closely trimmed to leave no white and then stuck on a cover, and someone had taken a picture and cropped it very oddly. I understand now what you were saying. That is, indeed, selvage. :)
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Posted 04/25/2015   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It was the curtness of Kevin's original post that had me confused. I understand the special printings quite thoroughly. Not sure why a mountain got made out of a molehill.

Let's move on. If a picture is worth 1000 words, here is a picture lifted from ebay, showing a full sheet of 200 of Scott 758. The stamp starting this post is cut from the lefthand column of a similar sheet, (although not the 10th or 11th stamp down, since those two positions would show the arrow).



The presence or absence of gum is not a 100% indicator, since imperforate sheets of the National Parks could be sent in for gumming, and conversely, singles cut from the souvenir sheets could have lost their gum over the years. So gum is not so simple. Fortunately, yours is identifiable from the front due to the selvedge as already noted.
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