R164 Fancy Border Cancel

Does anyone have this same cancel on document/instrument? Most of these R164's were used on bank checks. They occur on other document/instruments also!

I expect the "F. N. B." would be First National Bank, so perhaps this stamp was on a back check. Unless the F. N. B. would be something else, but I say its a safe bet it came from a bank check.

Would like to see an on document/instrument usage that is clearly readable.







Dave

While the N.B. probably do stand for National Bank, the F. might stand for a particular city, town, or state just as easily as First.

Have you seen this cancel before

Dave

I'm wondering what the shapes are on either side of "1898." They almost look like parts of a map.

My first and second thoughts were the shapes were letters, but just could never make any sense out of them.

Parts of a map sounds reasonable to me, but I just do not know.

Hope somebody has seen or have one of these on document/instrument with a clear orientation.

Dave

I haven't seen it before but that really means little given the many millions that were used, by 1898 checks and other financial paper were commonly used every day. I think the design on the sides is just that, a design with no other meaning.

I see your point very well as it means very little!

Funny tho its a mystery, and I thought I might just as well ask everybody.

Don't expect now to get any other input from the other members.

Dave

Revcollector, my first sentence was ill written by me, I just reread it again, and I did not say what I meant to say, hope you did not take offense, offense was not intended.

What I meant to say was "I see your point, and as you say it means little given the many millions that were used", I agree with what you were saying, I just said it wrong. Again sorry.

Dave

Dave,

I reread your message and I see what you were saying. That's why I sent you an email, I misunderstood. Any way with my little experience collecting revenues I haven't seen that cancel before. My specialty is cancels on the US Large Banknotes. I would like to find cancels like the one posted on my Battleships.
I am still busy with the web site you and revcollector sent me on the Battleships.

Vince

There's a myriad of unattributed cancels out there, and not just from the 19th century. Without finding examples on documents, we may never know.

I am still trying to determine the origin of the two cancels below, presumably from the same company.






And one of my all-time Civil War era favorites. I've since found a second example on a $1 denomination, but no clue as to identity. A crowned globe or circle with monograms in the crown and the globe.