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The Jenny And Dehaviland Dh-4 On US Stamps

 
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Posted 05/22/2015   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add blcjr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm trying to identify all the stamps (and post cards or postal stationary) that depict the Jenny and the DH-4.

The Jenny first:

C1, C2, C3 -- the first US airmail stamps
C74 -- 50th anniversary of mail
2781 -- National Postal Museum Stamp
3142s -- Classic American Aircraft Panel
4806 -- Inverted Jenny stamp

A couple I am not sure of:




Any opinions or information about whether these are "Jennies" will be appreciated.

Now for the DH-4:

C6 -- is a "De Haviland Biplane"

What about the "mail planes" on C7, C8 and C9? Are they DH-4's, or "generic"?

Any other US postage stamp depicting the DH-4?

As for postal stationary or post cards, the only one I know of, for either, is UCX17, depicting the Jenny. Have I overlooked any?

Thanks for any help you can give me with this.

Basil

Edit: Fixed the wrong # for the inverted Jenny stamp. Meanwhile, while I cannot find any source for the two stamps I posted images of being "Jennies," I'm pretty sure they are intended to be. Both have 8-cylinder engines (like the OV-5), and have other similarities.

Confirmation of the DH-4 on C7-C9 here:

http://arago.si.edu/index.asp?con=1...&tid=2033366

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Posted 05/25/2015   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will infer from the lack of replies that no one disagrees with any that I've included in my lists, and no one knows of any I've missed. I hope that's right.
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Posted 05/25/2015   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Short of trying to get information from the Postal service I believe you're correct.

I too get frustrated by the lack of responses.
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Posted 05/25/2015   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I too get frustrated by the lack of responses.


LOL, I'm pretty sure that we all do! But, generally, it means that no one has an asnwer.
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Posted 05/25/2015   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One really good thing about stamp collector is they're opinionated which makes for good information. By the way do you have any FDC of the stamps?
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Posted 05/25/2015   2:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have FDC's of all the stamps. As I wonder why you asked, it occurs to me that some covers of the stamps I have questions about might have information about the plane depicted on the stamp. Whether or not that's why you asked, I will check!

I agree that no replies usually means no one has anything to say about the matter. So I just try to put the best spin on it, as I did here.
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Posted 05/25/2015   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The image used on Scott 2436 (20th Universal Postal Congress) is referred to simply as a biplane.

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Posted 05/25/2015   5:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kollectorkurt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Donning my militaria hat for you, blcjr. The two stamps you are wondering about do depict the Curtiss JN-4 "Jenny" even if there is nothing "official" from the USPS stating so. The exhaust and vents are unmistakeable.

As for C6, she's clearly a DH-4/-4A. The identifying trait is the rear "cockpit" which is a separate cut-out (originally housed a .303in Lewis machinegun on a swivel-ring). Please don't exclude the 8c stamp, C4. The radiator/propeller design depicts the front of the DH-4!

As for the C7-9 set, I would also identify them as DH-4/-4A. The squared-off bottom rear of the engine housing is the giveaway.
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Posted 05/25/2015   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1,

I realize that the "official" description just said "biplane," but I agree with kollectorkurt that the engine exhaust makes it most likely modeled after the Jenny. But I will probably qualify anything I have to say about that stamp and hedge it a bit. Eventually, all this information will make it, hopefully, into an exhibit I'm working on. So I will want to be as precise as I can be, without overstating anything.

I have other sources identifying the C6-C9 stamps as DH-4's, so am comfortable with their designation.
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Posted 05/26/2015   7:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if this is of any help or not, but I came upon this USPS publication (about 12 years old now) that refers to several aircraft by name as depicted on US Stamps:

https://about.usps.com/publications/pub528.pdf
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Posted 05/27/2015   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1,

Thanks for the link! There was nothing in it really dispositive of my questions in this thread, but it has information I can put to use later, so I much appreciate the link.

Basil
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Posted 07/26/2015   01:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add teals1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Basil, Hi from New Zealand. My Stanley Gibbons (London,UK) book on "aircraft on Stamps" depicts both of your US stamps posted above as Curtiss JN-4 Jenny aircraft. From your posting I am presuming that your are referring to US stamps only. I say this as many other countries include the both the Jenny and DH-4 on stamps.

Below are scans of a US postcard and FDC, both of which are in my collection. The text is from the reverse side of the FDC.

Hope this is helpful, Allen




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