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Franklin 1 Cent "Coil" Stamp

 
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Posted 09/25/2015   01:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add maverickx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello! Don't want to waste anyone's time but just wanted some opinions on this one. I'm assuming this is a good trim job? It does look to have a few green specks at the bottom edge. What is that? Thanks for your time!



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Posted 09/25/2015   04:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave Drie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On reverse pic it appears to show a perf remnant right of center at bottom so I would vote for trimmed.

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Posted 09/25/2015   06:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for responding, Dave!
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Posted 09/25/2015   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The top 'cut' seems to be sloping down to the left!

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Posted 09/25/2015   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Peter! So is it safe to assume any straight edges that seem to slope or have other angles are suspect for being trimmed? I take it that the legit coils have very straight edges?
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Posted 09/25/2015   08:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The specs at bottom are the remnant on the guide line between the panes. It would be a natural straight edge at bottom before the top margin was scissor'd. Straight edge stamps are favorite's of coil fakers because only one edge needs to be faked and they often have bigger natural margins.
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Posted 09/25/2015   1:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with Petert4522, the straight edges are not parallel with one another, and as Dave Drie states there does seem to be a possible perf remaining.

All the above are good indicators of a "Trim".

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Posted 09/25/2015   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Where you see the guideline remnant the stamp was issued with a straight edge. The little "dimple" is not a perf remnant. However, the sloping top line is most certainly a concern signal that the stamp was not issued like that. If the slitter for a genuine coil was off by that much it would be cutting into the design on subsequent stamps very soon (or heading off into the margins as the case may be). The point is that the machinery could not operate consistently unless the cutters were set in parallel. So parallelism in the cut is an important criterion.
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Posted 09/25/2015   2:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another from the few I dug up. I'm assuming same thing?



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Posted 09/25/2015   2:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maverick, on this one the right hand side is bowed. At least you're getting a whole collection of these!

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Posted 09/25/2015   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I know! I don't why the person who owned these prior did this to so many of these. What enjoyment did he get out of making fake stamps?? Must have liked to dream!
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Posted 09/25/2015   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
essayk has it. It should be parallel. I think the "dent" on the bottom is just a dent. Notice the guide line is unimpacted.

The 321 isn't even a good fake. The stamp isn't wide enough and the sides aren't even straight.

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Posted 09/25/2015   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some of these people just murder these stamps! Hopefully, nobody got suckered on these at one time or another!
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