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Lincoln Stamp 315?

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Posted 09/25/2015   06:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add maverickx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello! Is this a 315? Thanks for your opinion and time!



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Posted 09/25/2015   09:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
faked inperf... margins are too small.
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Posted 09/25/2015   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Chasa! Man, this is the 4th stamp of this batch I have found that are fake!
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Posted 09/25/2015   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To be considered genuine by expert services, a #315 used must measure at last 21.5mm x 25mm or more. Yours looks too small.
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Posted 09/25/2015   10:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you kindly for your expert opinion, Mr. Weiss! Should I measure it just for the heck of it? I do have a fractional digital caliper.
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Posted 09/25/2015   11:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You should measure it. Based on the current evidence, it would be more correct to say is that it can't be expertized as genuine. However, that doesn't mean that it is definitely fake. There is a difference. It could be genuine, but trimmed close by the person who affixed it to a cover. But an expert will not certify it as genuine unless it has the minimum dimensions. Consequently, as a practical matter it cannot be represented as a 315 unless it has those dimensions, even if it is actually genuine. Some sellers will do so anyway, of course, and some buyers may not understand the issue.
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Posted 09/25/2015   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it looks like it has pretty big borders to be trimmed down but if your buying pairs and blocks are better for imperfs but in used ones this isnt always an option.
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Posted 09/25/2015   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your very informative response, cipalermo. Makes a lot of sense. I measure it for the heck of it!
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Posted 09/25/2015   12:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's correct that to avoid the issue of genuineness, almost all informed buyers will either buy only a pair, or a single with unquestionably large margins plus a certificate. This issue is so widely faked that it's pretty hard to sell a single of this issue, to an informed buyer, without a certificate if the margins are on the cusp, or smaller, than the minimums required by most experts.
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Posted 09/25/2015   1:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good advise here - I shall bookmark this thread for sure as a reference when I venture to purchase this stamp.

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Edited by Stampalotapus - 09/25/2015 1:16 pm
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Posted 09/25/2015   1:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again fellas! This has been extremely informative. I will measure with my local stamp shop expert and see what comes up. I'll post back anything interesting.
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Edited by maverickx - 09/25/2015 1:21 pm
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Posted 09/25/2015   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can't imagine it happening, but if this pair were separated, and cut a bit close to the right stamp, I wonder if that stamp could get a cert.? Makes me wonder how many 315's there are out there that won't cert.?

https://i.ebayimg.com/23/!Bm+cGq!B2...7zQ~~_12.JPG
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Posted 09/25/2015   3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
be intresting to see what this sells for http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCOTT-315-U...em5424d8e322
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Posted 09/25/2015   3:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maverickx,

Eventually I am going to find out just how many fakes I have in my collection. I wasn't really concerned with the lower value stamps, but I guess I should have been.
For what its worth, I did do a lot of research before purchasing. I hope that will mitigate the damage somewhat. I look forward to your measurements.

Jack Kelley
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Posted 09/25/2015   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Jim! That ebay stamp looks like the same writing as on the back of mine! How weird! I bought my batch on ebay too!
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Posted 09/25/2015   4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hear ya Jack. I will definitely let you know. I plan on measuring today after work but not expecting anything special.
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