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˝˘ & 1˝˘ Postage Rates

 
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Posted 09/25/2015   10:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add BKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can anyone tell me what the ˝˘ and 1˝˘ postage rates covered? I assume that when the PO released the stamps in 1925 they had a purpose, such as a discounted rate for bulk mailers or non-profit organizations, but I have been unable to find any articles on-line or on these forums to tell me what it was.
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Posted 09/25/2015   12:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That "Mr. KGB" is a nice site I was not aware of. It answered my question about the 1 1/4 c Gallatin usage.
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Posted 09/25/2015   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BKing to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, KGB. I don't recall seeing anything about second and third class rates on the USPS site.
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Posted 09/25/2015   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These should also help






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Extract PP356-357 from:
"U.S. International Postal Rates, 1872-1996 Hardcover (c)1996
by Anthony S. Wawrukiewicz & Henry W. Beecher
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Just a gentle reminder that authors of reference works deserve credit for what they have done. When you provide a reference, it is good courtesy to state the source.

Please don't be offended at the reminder.
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ESSAYK: Thank you for your "gentle reminder" of proper referencing. I may not have been offended as much by your post had you not lacked any appreciation for the time an effort taken to look-up, scan, re-size and post a response to the question. The publication (U.S. International Postal Rates) is clearly shown and easily looked-up -- had you taken the effort. Instead, you'd prefer to "snipe" at my response -- an effort to help someone versus appreciating what was done on their behalf. Next time, try saying "Thank You" first.

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Posted 09/25/2015   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the edit, Hal.
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Posted 09/25/2015   5:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BKing to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Hal, that chart explained it for me. The 1˝˘ Harding was issued March 19, 1925 and the rate for the 3rd class domestic went up to 1˝˘ on April 15, so it undoubtedly was issued for that rate. The ˝˘ Hale was issued April 4th, so it was to be used with a 1˘ stamp. I assumed that the fractional stamps were for a specific rate, but could not find any information other than for first class, post card and air mail rates.
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Posted 09/25/2015   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I still use them for postage now, nobody has said not to so I guess its ok
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Posted 09/25/2015   9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There were no postal rates less than one cent total during the Fourth Bureau Issue period. The 1/2c were not issued for a specific rate; they were issued for add-on purposes. A valid single use of the half-cent Hale issue will involve other stamps (1c or 1/2c) a postal card, or a piece of postal stationary. ˝˘ Hale were predominately used on the 3rd Class, Single Piece Rate (< 2 oz.), for Commercial Papers, for FM and Domestic Rates, dependent on the time period. The ˝˘ Hale was replaced by the ˝˘ Franklin Presidential issue. Fractional rates, above 1c, are extensively seen in second, third and fourth class U.S. Postal Rates. Rates are a great area of study -- my passion. It is why stamps were originally issued -- to pay specific rates.

If you love U.S. postal history, of any period, I strongly suggest you invest in two publications:
"U.S. Domestic Postal Rates, 1872-1999", Rev Second Edition.,© 1999 CAMA Publishing, Portland, OR., 338pps; by Henry W. Beecher& Anthony S. Wawrukiewicz
"U.S. International Postal Rates, 1872-1996",© 1996 CAMA Publishing, Portland, OR., 402pps; by Anthony S. Wawrukiewicz & Henry W. Beecher

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If you want some additional fun, try collecting solo and combination (non-multiple) usages of the half-cent postage dues (J68, J69, J79) on cover. They are Scott minimum value as used stamps, but much tougher to find as legit uses on cover than you would think. Not rare by any means, but not common either.
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REVENUECOLLECTOR - Great idea! That would make a neat collection and exhibit!
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Also, for all things half-cent, I would recommend reading through Clyde Jennings' exhibit "The Half":

http://d2jf3tgwe889fp.cloudfront.ne...Jennings.pdf
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Posted 09/26/2015   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't forget the 4 1/2 cent in those 1/2 cent wanderings.
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