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Do People Still Collect Booklet Panes?

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Posted 01/11/2016   6:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Riderontherain to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I remember years ago collecting booklet panes was quite popular, although I'd never understood why. I felt at the time (and still do now) that, if a pane of stamps was from a booklet, the proper way of collecting it would be the entire booklet in its original form.

In any case, my question has to do with the fact that, since recent booklets are almost exclusively of the sticky type, do people still collect booklet panes of sticky stamps like the old days? (I am of course referring to folded booklets; many other so-called booklets already come in the form of panes). A dealer friend told me he had never heard of people collecting sticky booklet panes from folded booklets. Could that be true? If so, why? what is the logic behind the change? Just curious.
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Posted 01/11/2016   6:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
if they make it someone will want it because they want one of everything, I personaly hate the old booklets because it seems like everytime I get one the stamps inside are messed up from storage.
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Posted 01/11/2016   9:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gabriella77us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Recently another collector gave me two complete booklets of US 2642-2646, the 29c hummingbirds, to use as postage. The same person gave me some 20c blocks as well. The blocks are in good shape and I have no trouble separating the stamps and using them, but those hummingbird booklets are a mess. Some of the stamps have torn when I try to separate the panes, to the point I can't even use them for postage.
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Posted 01/11/2016   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kollectorkurt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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...those hummingbird booklets are a mess. Some of the stamps have torn when I try to separate the panes, to the point I can't even use them...


STOP!

Please take a very close look at those stamps! Are they perhaps missing the die-cutting?


There are several major US errors which went unnoticed until the person using them got fed up with having to tear apart stamps for postal use.
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Posted 01/12/2016   01:00 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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STOP!

Please take a very close look at those stamps! Are they perhaps missing the die-cutting?


The hummingbird stamps the other person referred to were perforated, not die cut.


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my question has to do with the fact that, since recent booklets are almost exclusively of the sticky type, do people still collect booklet panes of sticky stamps like the old days?


There were vaery few self-adhesive stamps issued in the folded booklet form (32c Flag, H, 33c Flag are the only ones I can think of). For the 32c Flag, they sold never folded booklet panes.
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Posted 01/12/2016   09:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.linns.com/en/insights/u...k-of-10.html ... Linn's ... Tip of the week: United States Vintage Seed Packets block of 10

Just when you thought it was safe to get out of the water.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who has one of these booklets, and has been using these stamps for postage)
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Posted 01/12/2016   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kollectorkurt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Die-cut or perforated, my "hey go look closely" remains sound advise. The 20c Apgar comes immediately to mind, and I seem to recall similar issues with the 29c Eagles as well as three or four coils.
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Posted 01/12/2016   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was mostly refering to older ones I have had to soak alot apart and end up with either a no gum booklet pane or something to glue stick for postage, if there are not coming easily dont make them.
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Posted 01/12/2016   5:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Riderontherain to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There were vaery few self-adhesive stamps issued in the folded booklet form (32c Flag, H, 33c Flag are the only ones I can think of). For the 32c Flag, they sold never folded booklet panes.


Well, the USPS has actually issued quite a few of sticky folded booklets over the years:

1997 Botanical Prints
1998 US Flags (H)
1999 City Flag
1999 Pink Rose
1999 Fruit Berries
2000 Four Flowers
2000 Statue of Liberty
2001 Holiday Greetings
2001 Bison
2001 Love
2001 George Washington
2001 Apple & Orange
2002 US Flags
2002 Antique Toys
2002 Greetings
2003 Flag
2006 Snow Flakes
2006 Holiday Knits
2006 Lady Liberty Flag
2006 Crops of the Americas


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https://www.linns.com/en/insights/u...k-of-10.html ... Linn's ... Tip of the week: United States Vintage Seed Packets block of 10


The article claims that the Vintage Seed Packets booklet is generally collected as a block of 10. Really? Anyone here collects it as such and not the entire booklet (which is flat and not folded)?


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Posted 01/12/2016   6:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gabriella77us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the hummingbird stamps, the perforations were OK but the panes were stuck to each other. They were given to me primarily for use as postage, but may require more work than I want to put into them.

I also have a complete booklet of the 22c Special Occasions (1987). It is in good shape, probably because it contains only one pane.

I collect mostly used stamps, but there are some cases when I go with mint. Several people have commented on other topics that each collector should collect just what he or she wants to, and this is what I do!
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Posted 01/12/2016   9:47 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rider - those you list were not issued in folded booklet form. They were issued in convertible booklet form, which means you can fold them yourself into what they consider to be a booklet. The ones I mentioned were in traditional cardboard booklet covers.

Gabriella - the hummingbirds panes were all glued together in the tab area with the bottom pane glued to the cover. They can be pulled apart, but you will always get some damage to the tab - this is considered normal. If youy require pristine panes, look for what is called a never folded pane - they were never put into a booklet and do not have any tab damage and do not have a fold between the 2nd and 3rd row of perfs.
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Posted 01/12/2016   11:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gabriella77us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Eyeonwall - When the hummingbird booklets were first issued, they were as you describe. The ones I was given were found in a mixture lot, and they must have seen some humidity because the panes were stuck to each other for the whole length of the stamps, not just at the tab. I could soak all the gum off to get the stamps apart, but then I would have to use glue to use them for postage.

In my album I have mounted an unused pane of all 5 hummingbird stamps (without the tab) from a booklet I bought soon after it was issued. I do not require a "pristine" pane.
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Posted 01/12/2016   11:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bas S Warwick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you were a mint topical collector they could look quite nice displayed open. One way of saving mint stick on stamps

This 2002 SA Flowers came to me on a bulk purchase (part used).

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Posted 01/13/2016   12:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Riderontherain to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Rider - those you list were not issued in folded booklet form. They were issued in convertible booklet form, which means you can fold them yourself into what they consider to be a booklet. The ones I mentioned were in traditional cardboard booklet covers.


Every item listed in my earlier post exists in folded booklet form as sold by the USPS; they are all in my collection. Some of the items were also issued in other formats, such as convertible booklets.
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Posted 01/13/2016   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The confusion over the booklets may stem from the fact that the USPS created some "makeshift" vending machine booklets from already issued sheet & booklet stamps. As I recall this was done around 1996. You can find them listed in the booklet section of the Scott US Specialized Catalogue.
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Posted 01/13/2016   5:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Riderontherain to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The confusion over the booklets may stem from the fact that the USPS created some "makeshift" vending machine booklets from already issued sheet & booklet stamps. As I recall this was done around 1996. You can find them listed in the booklet section of the Scott US Specialized Catalogue.


The makeshift (also known as MDI) booklets are a totally different animal. They are technically issued by Minnesota Diversified Industries and all have a uniform appearance regardless of the stamps inside. No one to my knowledge has ever been able to pin down the total number of such booklets issued due to the plethora of varieties available (I have over 50 of such booklets in my collection, but am sure still missing some varieties).

My earlier post did not refer to MDI booklets.
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