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George Rogers Clark Issue Of 1929 (Scott #651)

 
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Posted 01/29/2016   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mcgeesorg to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
My favorite U.S. stamp — for both artistic and mathematical reasons — is the George Rogers Clark issue of 1929 (Scott #651), which are typically collected in plate blocks of six:



Artistically, it's because of the exquisite detail of both the frame and vignette, as well as the striking colors.

Mathematically, it's because twelve frame plates were produced; twelve vignette plates were produced; all 144 combinations exist; and all 288 combinations of frame plate, vignette plate, and left/right exist at approximately the same rarity. Startling.

I collect plate blocks of the issue. Here's my checklist:



This came to mind because I realized I had written a long blog post about this issue eight years ago today. I think the post still holds up, with a lot of interesting info.
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Posted 01/29/2016   10:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I am sort of partial to the stamp myself.
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Posted 01/29/2016   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The plate blocks are all pretty common because it's a high survival rate stamp. In part because it is so attractive and in part because it is such a large stamp. So collectors wanted them and collectors were probably the biggest users as well. And there were a lot of other 2 cent stamps issued in that era, so everyone had lots of choices.
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Posted 01/29/2016   2:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stuart MacNeil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just got mine last weekend at UNIPEX here in Toronto, a welcome addition to the collection!
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Posted 01/29/2016   4:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was amused by Uncle Frank's notes of optimism for the future appreciation potential of these two Clark FDCs.



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Posted 01/29/2016   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you want to compare the value of a $0.02 Commodity in 1929 there are four choices. In 2014 the relative:
real price of that commodity is $0.28
real value of that commodity is $0.52
labor value of that commodity is $0.86 (using the unskilled wage) or $1.14 (using production worker compensation)
income value (amount of the GNP it was equal to) of that commodity is $1.27

The FDC cats $6, so at least it did go up rather then down.
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twelve frame plates were produced; twelve vignette plates were produced; all 144 combinations exist; and all 288 combinations of frame plate, vignette plate, and left/right exist at approximately the same rarity.


mc-- May I curiously ask how you got this information?



-IBFS
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Posted 01/30/2016   06:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Durland Standard Plate # Catalog....
BEST for US plate info/#s
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Posted 01/30/2016   1:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's also in other places, such as The U.S. Commemorative Stamps of the Twentieth Century by Max Johl along with other information about the stamp. These are great books, all four volumes are on the Siegel website under Tools and Resources and then Siegel encyclopedia. HIGHLY recommended reading (essential actually) for anyone interested in this area.
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Posted 01/30/2016   1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One of the tidbits from the book is that there were four sheets printed with inverted centers, but they were all discovered immediately and destroyed still ungummed and imperforate.
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Posted 01/30/2016   1:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mcgeesorg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the lead and extra trivia, revcollector! However, kevin504 is right in that I happened to get it from Durland.
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Posted 06/26/2016   5:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Axeman225 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I recently acquired 120 full sheets of Scott #651. I was told by a friend that I should try to seek out a collector who specifically collects this stamp.
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Posted 06/27/2016   12:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Axeman225 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
McGee,

I sorted through my sheets, and counted between 20-30 sheets that you do not have blacked out in your chart. 95% of mine are the Right sheets.

On a different note, I was trying to estimate what the survival rate for a stamp like this would be. I see that 16M were issued. What is a good estimate on the remaining stamps (this was issued in 1929). I was going to guess 10-15%. And maybe 10% of those are still in MNH/OG state. That would mean only 160,000 are left in MNHOG state. And how many of those are actually in full sheets? Another 10-20%? If that's the case, I have a monopoly over these sheets with ~7000 stamps. That would be pretty cool.
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Posted 06/27/2016   12:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mcgeesorg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a nice find, Axeman225! I got your message, and I'll respond by email. I look forward to talking with you.

Cheers!
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Posted 06/29/2016   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Axeman225 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mcgee,

I do not have an email from you. Am I missing it or did you not send one?

Thanks!
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