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Anyone Have An Image Of A 492 Cracked Plate? I Have A 492 That Looks Weird!

 
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Posted 06/08/2016   5:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add waynezach to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The one I have is on a cut piece with a CDS Cleveland Ohio Sep 30, 1920

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Posted 06/08/2016   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Waynezach, could you please tell us what you see? The picture is a bit out of focus - maybe I am overlooking it.

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Posted 06/08/2016   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add waynezach to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll try and post a better image. I see spider veins going down Washington's face. More so on the nose and the side of the mouth
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Posted 06/08/2016   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Be sure to modify your picture with arrows or something else to show where you see this. I think I see what you are describing, but arrows would help. Thanks.
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Posted 06/08/2016   6:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those are probably gripper cracks, rather then the cracked plate which supposedly runs from the P of postage to the top of George's head.
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Posted 06/08/2016   7:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see those "spider veins" now. Gripper cracks or a cracked plate - would they not show up as heavily inked?
I am thinking now about Scott 1908 plate 15 " Wounded P" or Scott 2124 plate 4 " Buggy Whip". Those are examples of gripper cracks and they are heavily inked because the cracks collect ink.

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Isn't it post-printing surface scuffing? This item is nearly 100 years old and could have been in a file at some point, with other papers rubbing over it, or otherwise subjected to surface wear. The same effect is seen in the leaves at lower left. It's possible that some other object just slid across it.
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Posted 06/08/2016   7:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add waynezach to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK I took out my digital microscope. It's not surface scuffs. You can see it is almost a network of cracks around the printing lines.
The lines are white (can't get the color right on the upload!)

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Posted 06/08/2016   8:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add waynezach to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your right peter! If it was a cracked plate, those lines should be filled with ink! Maybe it's from a cleaner used on the plate which caused a reaction with the ink. Kind of like that crackle paint you can buy.
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Posted 06/08/2016   9:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found a couple of oddities while looking through my US 492's. In the first, I see a filled in spot on the nose, but it looks like very poor wiping, and nothing else.



And on another stamp, I see that the bottom frame is actually made up of many dots. I thought it was a solid color.

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Partime, the border on type III W/F is actually a cross-hatching pattern. It usually doesn't show well because of the inking in that part of the design. There is an explanation on the differences in the borders for Types I,II and III Rotary printings in this post.

https://goscf.com/t/42370
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Posted 06/09/2016   10:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link. Cross-Hatching it is.
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