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Posted 08/04/2009   08:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add simonskelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone,

Can anyone identify this stamp for me please?

Thanks

Simon

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Posted 08/04/2009   10:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Simon:

You have a postal fiscal stamp. It is either SG F3 or F4, from 1853. Value is roughly £2.

David
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Posted 08/04/2009   12:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cgrotha to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And a nice one it is....
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Posted 02/09/2010   1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Hello

According to my 2003 edition of Gibbons Concise catalogue, if it is SG # F3, the value used is 30.00 Pounds and if it is #F4, the cat. value is then 50.00 Pounds.

Now, whether or not the pen cancellation reduces it by that much, I am not certain but I would do some reasearch on these before you decide. Gibbons does state that the prices shown are for genuine postal cancellation, so the value of yours with pen cancellations will be far less. As another member posted, maybe bringing them down to a couple of Pounds. Pity really.

Happy collecting

Chimo

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Posted 02/09/2010   7:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The revenue cancelled fiscal stamp is quite common. In fact, this particular stamp and question pop up frequently in other forums.

You cannot use the postally used catalog price for F3 nor F4 as a guide. You must refer to a revenue catalog, where you will find the used price significantly less.
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Posted 02/09/2010   8:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a "heads up", although this is obviously a revenue cancel, one must always be vigilant that the corollory to a pen cancel is <always> a revenue. In some cases pen cancels are postal in nature and the value significantly higher,(perhaps Tasmania-Van Diemen's land? NSW?)
In cases where both pen and hammer cancels exist (India)then the pen cancel can generally be assumed to be "theft prevention" by the owner of the stock.
(generally a cross X)

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Posted 02/09/2010   8:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good point, rod222! I've mentioned in a previous thread that some of the early Finnish pen cancels actually ADD a significant premium to the stamp. You can actually ID some of the postmasters based on the specific pen cancel symbol drawn.

And don't forget early Afghanistan, where stamps were "cancelled" by tearing off a chunk! How's that for prevention of reusing stamps!

k
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Interesting to say the least.

The area of revenue stamps can be another ball game in comparison to the regular postage stamps.

Chimo

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Posted 02/10/2010   02:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I wasn't aware of Finland Khj, I'll store that
In the South Pacific there was Niue and another Island whose name
escapes me, I think the postmaster changed the value tablets.
In most cases these rare pen cancels are out of circulation
due to their collectability, but you never know.

Someone posted a cancellation on a Newsgroup years ago, that seemed to
be so obvious, that one is hard to understand why it didn't take hold.
The canceller's outer ring had a knurled facing, that would automatically
deface any stamp it was struck with with pin hole perforations like a Z grill.
It may have been Chinese, I just cannot recall, but the idea seemed so simple.

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