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White Russia~byelorussian National Republic

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Pillar Of The Community
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Posted 09/01/2011   2:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I doubt this will appear as I intend it to, but when I type "liberation" into an online translator, the result looks an awful lot like the middle word (or at least the first two-thirds of it).
#1086;#1089;#1074;#1086;#1073;#1086;#1078;#1076;#1077;#1085;#1080;#1077;

[edit: As I suspected...it looked great in the message preview, but it didn't carry through into the message.]
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Edited by Cjd - 09/01/2011 2:58 pm
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Canada
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Posted 09/01/2011   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Google translate, Liberation and Exemption show the same word in Belarussian. So I would bet on Liberation
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BeeSee in BC
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Posted 09/01/2011   7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first two words on the chainbreaker stamp are: "v pamyat" or "in memory" (of).

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Nigel
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Posted 09/01/2011   8:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Exemption is when you have no obligation to do something
Liberation is when you are free from the landlord I think in those days in Russia

rod
thanks for this topic. I knew about White Russia but never seen the stamps before.
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Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
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Posted 09/01/2011   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Daniel,
and thanks everyone who replied, a great collaborative effort.
thanks for some link cjd, if you have that "Fantasie" catalogue
I am very jealous.

A half reasonable memory can be an advantage and a burden,
It was niggling me that I had seen this fellow before,
and so, in my abscence here, I plowed through all my
usual cinderella haunts, and finally found another
description from the excellent, but closed Stefano site

http://www.raster.it/stefano/a/stam...s311-320.htm

Cinderella collectors be warned, you can remain
fascinated in that site for days

This was the reply on questions 311 to 320

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Pillar Of The Community
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Posted 09/02/2011   03:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect the text on the chainbreaker stamp is in Russian rather than Belorussian (although it probably works in Belorussian as well).

Before the official language reform in 1918 Russian used the letter "i" before another vowel just as used in the two examples here.

Although happy to be corrected if there are other differences!
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Nigel
Edited by nigelc - 09/02/2011 03:35 am
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Posted 09/02/2011   10:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are probably right CD Nigel, as my online keyboard is modern and only showed the "I" for Belorussian, but not Russian.
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BeeSee in BC
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Edited by BeeSee - 09/02/2011 11:13 pm
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Posted 09/19/2011   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Judging by Nigel's post earlier, my copy is a forgery?

It seems the same as the other stamps in my set. The serif on a is joined, the hand, etc.

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BeeSee in BC
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Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
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Posted 09/19/2011   11:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Use this one BeeSee,
download, and name the image so the image lies
alongside your own.
Then use the wheel mouse to rapidly toggle between the stamps

There are vast differences, most noticeably
the fleurons adjacent to the value tablet



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Posted 09/19/2011   11:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kmncd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not the linguistic expert in Russian language but after the 1918 reform they really changed the #1068;-"soft sign/hard sign(russian:mjagkij znak/tveordnij znak)" and I guess the "i" for the "u" sound.The old russian imperial language had the "i" instead nowadays "u" usage.And it came from the Glagolitic script which was the church slavic language from the medieval times.So it makes sense for the communist/atheists to reform it.The ukrainians and belorrussians use "i" for an "u" sound in cyrillic to this day.Don't really know about the balkan countries...
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Posted 09/19/2011   11:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


I made a *.gif

See the automatic toggle here

http://cjoint.com/11sp/AIufMzqw1Dg.htm

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Posted 09/20/2011   12:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kmncd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod!You're always equipped with an excellent material.From down to earth old articles,to space age automatic... toggle... thingie.I really think you're the guy to whom the librarians come to,rather than the other way 'round.
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Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
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Posted 09/20/2011   02:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shucks
Thank you, but I stand on the shoulders
of others. My material just come from Books,
lots of 'em, and other collectors.
It's great to see Newbies questions still throw some of us,
the hobby is never boring
I still feel like a newbie here sometimes, I still have problems
identifying a lithograph from the typographed.
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Posted 09/20/2011   09:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent, Rod, excellent! The differences are numerous and so obvious.
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BeeSee in BC
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