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Posted 06/13/2010   03:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rod222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

May I solicit assistance from members for ID on these 8 please?
Just the year of issue would do.
Thanks

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Posted 06/13/2010   04:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

1. SG 1252 (1984)
2. SG 1201 (1982)
3. SG 1072 (1977)
4. SG 1066 (1977)
5. SG 704 (1964-65)
6. SG 297 (1935-36)
7. SG 753 (1966-70)
8. SG 1253 (1984)
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Posted 06/13/2010   05:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! (gulp)
how do you do that?
I have SOTW with colour, and still had problems.

Anyhow...Thanks

Sundry query: any reason why no stamps in 1993?
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Posted 06/13/2010   08:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, Guatemala is a very conservative stamp issuing country..it issued 4 airmails in 1992 and I guess it took a year off !!
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Posted 06/13/2010   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Phil, I thought the catalogue pages were thin.
Very conservative. Nice stamps though.
I like very much the resplendent Quetzl.


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Posted 06/13/2010   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod thats what got me interested in Guatemala..i saw what I now know as the Large Quetzals with new values overprinted..they were constantly running out of the lower value and it took quite a while to go through the red tape to order new stamps from abroad and get them delivered...i don't know what posessed them to print 150 and 200 centavo stamps when the first class postage was like 5 centavos !
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Posted 06/13/2010   2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These guys were originally printed as bonds to build one of the railroads..but of course when postage ran out..they were overprinted for use as stamps !!

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Posted 06/13/2010   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
this rather plain fellow RA2 was born to be a tax to build a post office in Guatemala City !

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Posted 06/13/2010   3:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
But even he was overprinted to commemorate events ra7 and ra10`

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Posted 06/13/2010   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi rod222,


Quote:
Wow! (gulp)
how do you do that?
I have SOTW with colour, and still had problems.

Anyhow...Thanks


You're very welcome and thanks for the dancing pepper!

I looked them up in the 2007 SG part 15 (Central America) - the first new edition since 1984!


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Posted 06/13/2010   6:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great overprints, Phil! Thanks for sharing.

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Posted 06/14/2010   01:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


finally catalogued all your opts
I'll probably never see them again.

That last one, what is the "bevelled star"

For the Novice Guatemalan collector,
some more genius from the French engraver Louis Eugene Mouchon.
A very dignified interpretation of a Native Indian

Typo Paris

The stamps of this issue were printed on types of paper
lithographed with a "ground" of colour paler than, but similar to the stamp.

Stamps may be found with portion of the paper makers watermark "lacroix freres"
in double lined letters which occurs in some sheets

The 1 peso comes in a variety of "thick P" in peso.

(This too, may be one the first ever stamps featuring a pineapple)
The vignette of the native Indian, is framed by a sprig
of Olive branch on the left, for peace, and a twig of oak on the right to signify strength.
Those are in turn framed by two resplendent Quetzles.
The top left features the Cocoa pod (chocolate) and perhaps fronds
of the sugar cane, on the right top, a pineapple, and citrus
fruit possibly a lemon, and maybe a banana frond.
I have no idea on the headress plant.









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Posted 06/14/2010   09:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok Rod, for you I go into my Guatemala archives for information on "The Indian Woman" ! "We identify some details of the design:to the left of the central oval is a laurel branch at to the right an oak branch,whose tips just show below the horizontal tablet at the bottom. Under the tablet the die proofs show the name of the engraver E. Mouchon, in tiny letters. above the scroll at the top are palm and banana leaves, and there can be identified with some certainty a papaya in the upper left corner and a pineapple in the right corner, plus what are probably a lime, lemon and orange. The flags ? mentioned by Maury evidently would'nt fit in !!"
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Posted 06/14/2010   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK :)
I looked everywhere for his usual signature.
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Posted 06/14/2010   1:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i would love to have a cover with the Indian woman..but I would probably have to sell my truck !!
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Posted 06/14/2010   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Phil, I've been looking for a truck...how much do you want for it?


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(This too, may be one the first ever stamps featuring a pineapple)


Rod-

I'm hours away from having a catalogue available to me. Is this stamp earlier than the Bahamas Chalon portrait of 1859 (which features a pineapple, next to the queen)?

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