Civil War Headed Paper Query

Hello All,
This is not actually a cover but we have a query on this letter, unfortunately without the envelope.

This Civil War letter had no envelope and I don't know who it was to. Nor do I know the writer, John Sibbetts.


it appears to read...
Headquarters of the 60th Rey't Co. then possibly a '6'
Camp Loan <?> Feb 18th <?> 1862

The writer mentions that the boys from Morristown are all well, and that is the link with the previous letter.
Does this ring any bells with anyone.

Regards to all
Ron and Eunice.

here is your answer.. Goggle is your friend..
60th regiment out of Morristown, Tenn.

here is the link..

http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csainf/csa60.html

wait now that I think about it.. the dates are wrong..

either the website got it wrong or your letter is for something else.

Go to the website and send them an image of your letter, you may have found a unique piece of history

or more likely this one, a union regiment
http://dmna.state.ny.us/historic/re...hInfMain.htm
C company was recruited form Morristown New York
and the date fits..
since they were mustered in 1861, which is before the date on the letter.
the other was mustered AFTER the date on the letter.

The image has a definite nautical theme. How does that relate to an infantry regiment? Or would the regiment serve both on the land and on the water?

Allan

i think the paper was just some paper he had present..
I don't believe there was any significance..

Stampvirgin does have a point in that at that time, paper was not nearly as available or cheap as it is today, so people would use whatever they could get their hands on.

It also occurs to me that in February of 1862, the Union was working at a fever pitch to complete the construction of the ironclad USS Monitor, pride of the Union. This ship was a much needed defense against the actions of the CSS Virginia ironclad which had been playing havoc with the Union blockade of the south. Construction of the Monitor was completed on March 9, 1862.

The blanks on the paper have been filled in. Doesn't seem to be a casual use of a non-related piece of paper. If so, then quite a coincidence that the blanks are just what the writer needed.

I would love to see a higher resolution of both sides of the letter.
rohumpy.. It is entirely possible that it was designed as military stationary, I believe that to be the case. But it was a general purpose blank.
Nothing imprinted that identifies anything, Generic imprint.. having served in the military, this strikes me as a type of "form" a person would use.
Every request/letter etc.. in the military has it's on form to be filled out.. and most are generic as this.
Based on the info, I still believe it is from the Union side of the war. and also, I believe that this paper was probably just saying that the navy was the Pride of the nation. The term "Pride of the Nation" was used quite commonly during the civil war, referring to place, places and things.
So, my conclusion is that it is from a Union camp. Morristown refers to Morristown NY. The regiment numbers match an outfit out of Morristown from that time period. That dates are well before a similar Morristown unit created in the South.

Just "tinkering" with Google,
The 60th regiment was formed on the 16th February 1862 in Will County.
Will county is in illinois.
That seems uncanny with date and location, when the letter is taken into account.

there were a number of 60th's from different places..
there was a 60th out of morristown ny
one out of tenn. and if you look hard enough there were more then a dozen 60th regiments in different states.
I still am working on the conclusion of it being Union, and Morristown, because of the mention of the boys and the date on the letter. maybe if we see more of the letter we can figure it out.

We need a scan of both sides of the letter Ron
A name, a place, a location can mean the difference between
success and failure.

I have "harpers pictorial diary of the civil war"
this gigantic tome would weigh about 3-4 kilos,
gives monthly accounts of the war, but not much on regiments
from what I can see.
Some fantastic images of Lincoln in the field,
he towers over everybody, he certainly was an imposing figure.

Ron, maybe it is 60th Regiment Company "C" not 6 ?
The author has quite a flourish.
He also puts "th" above the number, never seen that before.

rod, I've seen it in the US military all the time..

in fact I was part of A/Co - 1/25th - 4th MarDiv. We used "th" every time we wrote the address.

btw.. that translates to Alpha Company of the first battalion in the 25th Marine regiment of the fourth marine division

Hi all,
Many thanks for all the input on this 'thread'.
We are attaching scans of the actual item and also our own transcript, on which we have a few queries.

We are great fans of Google but in cases like this we prefer to put the item up on stampcommunity first.
This way we feel that other people get to see the item and can share ideas and information. If we googled first and got specific information we would miss out on the wealth of 'stuff' which comes from other members as well as robbing the member of the chance of maybe learning something about the item.
We ourselves would much rather others did the same and gave us 'first bite of the cherry' as it were as we value the contacts made on the list and pick up a lot of information that we would otherwise miss out on.
For instance, on a previous query on a US cover I learned about Hopewell Mounds, something I had never heard of and though it was not relevant to the query I still found it interesting and it now means something to me.
That is the beauty of the list and what it is all about IMO.
By the way - these US items come to us from a lady in America who contacted us via our website. This list is marvellous as we know so little about USA philately.
To the scans.....






Soldier's letter no envelope, so no addressee
First page, illustrated headed paper 1776-1862 Pride of the Nation

Headquarters of the 60th Rey't. Co (or 6)
Camp Loan Feb 18th 1862

Dear Sir,
I received your very kind and welcome letter on the 5th and was much pleased to hear from you and to hear that you were all well at home. My health is very good at the present time also all of the boys from Morristown are well.

Inside the letter - left hand side

You said you wanted me to write all the news. I have not got any news that would interest you so I will not fill up any sheet with it for I suppose that you get the news from the <not of men?> <rest of men?> a great deal sooner than my letters would reach you. Therefore I think it useless to write such stuff to you. You spoke of William Downey, I think that he has inlisted in a good cause, that is if he is doing his duty for he can make young soldiers and have them already drilled to the March. I suppose that he has got good breastworks that he can work behind so let him load and fire and do his damndest in knocking the downey part off.

Right hand side :
But he must be mighty carefull while he is on the Hind March or he may have bad luck and to prevent it <be? use??> his Stomache Ranger
Enough of this stuff.
We are having the very best of times, plenty to eat plenty to do, so you see that we are in want of nothing in that line of business. The weather is very mild and we have some snow but it is not of any consequence. I shall have to draw my letter to a close by bidding you good night, excuse any mistakes, write soon and oblige your friend
John Sibbitts

Direct the same as before.
End of letter

The <?> are our queries – if anyone can fill them in, we would appreciate it.

with following my stubborn assertions... I found this William Downey from New York from the 6th Regiment, New York Infantry

ahah found it!!



Sibbitts, John

Union
Infantry
60th Regiment, New York Infantry

go here http://www.itd.nps.gov
select to search soldiers.. search on downey and John Sibbitts.

when the original post came out the last name was incorrectly spelled,
the correct spelling of the name has solved the mystery.


UNION NEW YORK VOLUNTEERS

60th Regiment, New York Infantry

Organized at Ogdensburg, N. Y., and mustered in October 30, 1861. Left State for Baltimore, Md., November 4, 1861. Attached to Dix's Division to March, 1862. Railroad Brigade, Army of the Potomac, to June, 1862. 2nd Brigade, Sigel's Division, Dept. of the Shenandoah, to June 26, 1862. 2nd Brigade, 2nd Division, 2nd Corps, Pope's Army of Virginia, to August, 1862. 3rd Brigade, 2nd Division, 2nd Corps, Army of Virginia, to September, 1862. 3rd Brigade, 2nd Division, 12th Army Corps, Army of the Potomac, to October, 1862. 2nd Brigade, 2nd Division, 12th Army Corps, to May, 1863. 3rd Brigade, 2nd Division, 12th Army Corps, Army of the Potomac, to October, 1863, and Army of tho Cumberland to April, 1864. 3rd Brigade, 2nd Division. 20th Army Corps, Army of the Cumberland, to July, 1865.

SERVICE.-Duty at Baltimore, Md., and between there and Washington, D. C.; also at Relay House, Md., and Harper's Ferry, W. Va., till June, 1862. Defence of Harper's Ferry May 28-30. Operations in the Shenandoah Valley till August. Pope's Campaign in Northern Virginia August 16-September 2. Sulphur Springs August 24. Battle of Groveton August 29. Bull Run August 30. Maryland Campaign September 6-22. Battle of Antietam, Md., September 16-17. Duty at Bolivar Heights till December. Reconnoissance to Rippon, W. Va., November 9. Expedition to Winchester December 2-6. March to Fredericksburg, Va., December 9-16. Duty at Fairfax till January 20, 1863. "Mud March" January 20-24. Chancellorsville Campaign April 27-May 6. Battle of Chancellorsville May 1-5. Gettysburg (Pa.) Campaign June 11-July 24. Battle of Gettysburg, Pa, July 1-3. Pursuit of Lee to Manassas Gap, Va., July 5-24. Duty on line of the Rappahannock till September 24. Movement to Bridgeport, Ala., September 24-October 3. Duty in Lookout Valley till November. Reopening Tennessee River October 26-29. Chattanooga-Ringgold Campaign November 23-27. Battles of Lookout Mountain November 23-24. Mission Ridge November 25. Ringgold Gap, Taylor's Ridge, November 27. Duty at Bridgeport, Ala., till May, 1864. Scout from Stevenson to Caperton's Ferry April 11 (Detachment). Veterans on furlough December, 1863-January, 1864. Atlanta (Ga.) Campaign May 1-September 8. Operations about Rocky Faced Ridge, Tunnel Hill and Buzzard's Roost May 8-11. Battle of Resaca May 14-15. Near Cassville May 19. New Hope Church May 25. Battles about Dallas, New Hope Church and Allatoona Hills May 26-June 5. Operations about Marietta and against Kenesaw Mountain June 10-July 2. Pine Mountain June 11-14. Ackworth June 12. Lost Mountain June 15-17. Gilgal or Golgotha Church June 15. Muddy Creek June 17. Noyes Creek June 19. Kolb's Farm June 22. Assault on Kenesaw June 27. Ruff's Station, Smyrna Camp Ground, July 4. Chattahoochie River July 6-17. Peach Tree Creek July 19-20. Siege of Atlanta July 22-August 25. Operations at Chattahoochie River Bridge August 26-September 2. Occupation of Atlanta September 2 to November 15. Expedition from Atlanta to Tuckum's Cross Roads October 26-29. Near Atlanta November 9. March to the sea November 15-December 10. Near Davisboro November 28. Siege of Savannah December 10-21. Campaign of the Carolinas January to April, 1865. North Edisto River, S. C., February 12-13. Battle of Bentonville, N. C., March 19-21. Occupation of Goldsboro March 24. Advance on Raleigh April 9-13. Occupation of Raleigh April 14. Bennett's House April 26. Surrender of Johnston and his army. March to Washington, D. C., via Richmond, Va., April 29-May 20. Grand Review May 24. Mustered out July 17, 1865.

Regiment lost during service 3 Officers and 64 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 5 Officers and 96 Enlisted men by disease. Total 168.

I think I found him too :

16. William Downey Jr. 1 was born on 8 May 1838 in Brockville, Ontario, Canada. He
was christened on 20 Jun 1838 in Brockville, Ontario, Canada. He died on 29 Aug 1920
in Morristown, St. Lawrence, New York. He was buried in Morristown, St Lawrence,
New York, Pine Hill Cem. He married Sarah Hindmarsh on 1 Jan 1862 in Ogdensburg,
St. Lawrence, New York. [Parents]