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Posted 07/23/2010   7:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe not a minisheet.
the image is on 3 Tonga issues, seen here :
http://web.me.com/myronpm/Topics/html/bottle.htm

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Posted 07/23/2010   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, verily you are a human encylopedia on things philatelic !!
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Posted 07/23/2010   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am only as good as my database k
no skill in that.

Query:
If, as that link suggests, mail was brought to the Islands
by trading ships, would they not have had to have authority?
thereby being an "R.M.S" royal Mail ship?

I would classify that ship in the image as a "tramp steamer'
but carrying mail raises the query.
perhaps the mail was so limited it did not qualify.
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Posted 07/24/2010   06:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

There is an article (Death defying postmen) Tin Can Mail
in the 2004 Royal Canadian Phil Soc Bulletin.

https://www.rpsc.org/CP_scans/Canad...o.%20321.pdf

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Posted 07/24/2010   12:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, here is the Niuafoou Tonga souvenir sheet you were talking about, issued in 1986.



It is a beautiful detailed painting, so I assume it must be a real ship, but still have not found the name. It must be mentioned in the magazine article.
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Posted 07/24/2010   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm... I wonder if the ship could be the SS Matua or SS Tofua as shown on this 1983 stamp set:

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Edited by BeeSee - 07/24/2010 12:56 pm
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Posted 07/24/2010   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very close to the SS Tofua BeeSee,
but unfortunately she has an enclosed wheelhouse.

The painting looks to me like mid thirties,
Tofua looks 1960's, but perhaps she had a refit?

I am sure the name is listed somewhere,
but that is the work you have to put into philately
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Posted 07/24/2010   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BeeSee, any chance of a close up of the Tofua please?
There were two Tofua's 1908 and 1951

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Posted 07/24/2010   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps further information could be found by searching on the original 1982 usage of the image in question. (The pictured sheet with the later usage appears to be 1996, for what its worth.)


(not my scan...see tonga2 on delcampe if interested)
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Posted 07/24/2010   9:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice minisheet Collin,
not sure I like the rouletted specimens.

I think we can narrow it down to an RMS of the NZ firm
United Steam Ship Company of NZ

I would still like a higher res scan of the Tofua 1

Here is the Tofua 2 with enclosed bridge and superstructure
So the painting either has to be an "artist's impression"
of the Tofua 1, or a completly different ship.
we shall continue to dig.

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Posted 07/25/2010   04:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Plateflaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a photograph of the first Tofua here...

http://www.ssmaritime.com/Tofua.htm

She looks somewhat different than the vessel depicted on the mini-sheet.
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Posted 07/25/2010   06:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent work plateflaw. I think you solved it.

I am going to dissent.
A few problems (Anchor position etc) can be explained
by artist interpretation perhaps.
To me there is too much that is similar, to dismiss.

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