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Posted 05/03/2024   08:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add angore to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
In 2017 Scott for the 1949 issues, they list perf varieties (nothing unusual about that) but below the listing they make the statement "25s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s come both in 12½ and 11½. same values."

Why not provide listings? It is seems odd and seems they are saying since they have same value not worth listing.

Steiner does not provide spaces for the minor issues so in the process of adding a page.

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Edited by angore - 05/03/2024 08:16 am

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Posted 05/03/2024   08:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Angore, you are talking about Scott !!! By the way, these are technically not Netherlands ( Dutch East- ) Indies, but Indonesie.


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Yes I am aware that Michel puts these in Indonesia but Scott puts them in Netherlands Indies. Scott did not list the Vienna issues until 2009. Other catalogs do not start Indonesia until even later. It looks like only the 4s had one perf variety,
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Indonesia didn't become independent until 27 December 1949, whereas this set began to appear in February 1949. I've no idea why Scott lists the bogus US/Austrian stuff.
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Posted 05/03/2024   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Angor I have seen Scott do this with other stamps but no idea why. Perhaps it is a transitional position before they actually list the varieties with "a" numbers?

Suriname is also weird. The 1936 engraved Queen definitives have 3 listed perf varieties including the difficult 10c. However, NVPH lists something like 6 or 7 different perf varieties for the same and the values are nominal. Even stranger- when you see these perf varieties for sale they conform to what Scott lists. I have never seen other values listed in Europe despite existing in NVPH.
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The 2019 Scott has expanded their listings, although oddly retained the now repetitive note after 324.

How bizarre that the primary numbers switch from leading with perf 12.5 and having the perf 11.5 as the variety, to having the opposite for the last half of the listings coinciding with the change in the stamp design. Is there a printing sequence reason for this difference between the two basic designs?

It does remind me that Scott is a general worldwide catalog and not at a "specialized" level that in-country catalogs can acheive.
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Suriname is also weird. The 1936 engraved Queen definitives have 3 listed perf varieties including the difficult 10c. However, NVPH lists something like 6 or 7 different perf varieties for the same and the values are nominal. Even stranger- when you see these perf varieties for sale they conform to what Scott lists. I have never seen other values listed in Europe despite existing in NVPH.


My 2015 Speciale catalogus lists only two varieties: line 14 and line 12 1/2, with the 10c of the latter being much more expensive. The others are the same price but for one that has a 'similar' price (12.5 vs 15 euro).

The high values have a different perforation gauge.
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Posted 05/03/2024   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is what I see in my 2015 NVPH. Most values are listed with perf changes:


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Ah, you meant six or seven stamps with a perforation variety. Yes. All eight stamps were issued with a new perforation in 1939.
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There seem to be 8 but I've never seen them listed as a set. Nor have most of them ever been offered as singles. I wonder if folks simply don't care and just make up sets with whichever perf they find?
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Posted 05/03/2024   3:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The market will be the biggest in the Netherlands, where most collectors of colonial stamps will use a DAVO or Importa album. They do not include perforation gauge varieties.
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The 2019 Scott helps. Scott has listed the most prevalent perf variety as the major listing and assigned a minor. I recall this on some of the Die I / II commonwealth issues. I would prefer list the first by date then list the subsequent varieties.
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Sorry to revive an old post, but the scott catalog section you posted is from the Netherlands Indies section? Mine doesn't have this in the Indonesia section but I am using a old one from 2018.
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If both perfs were produced at the same time, and not via a change in production, Scott isn't supposed to give new numbers. It's supposed to be for an intentional change.
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Just a side note ----- Scott will follow how dealers list and sell these . They will also get feedback from the different Philatelic Societies . Rarely do they adjust to customer request .

They will tell you to go to the society and have them give us a written request . They also understand they are not a specialised catalog ,they have a problem of growing their volumes too big with information in a rapid expanding set of books .
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Posted 01/13/2026   1:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DarkStampsTwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone know if this part of the Scott Catalog is in the Indonesia section or Netherlands Indies section?

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