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Need To Know If These Stamps Are Real Errors And Worth Certifying

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Posted 07/23/2026   07:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As others have said more or less, there are some Countries that carry a reputation when it comes to philatelic shenanigans and manufactured value ("errors") and Liberia is right at or very near the top of the list.

Bileski has been mentioned more than once for good reason. He enterprisingly created a market. Many "errors" of Liberia were intentional and exist in numbers that outstrip demand. Others "escaped" the printer.

It is a highly specialized area best described as a minefield. Any suggested sales values should be taken with a grain of salt. Use the ebay advanced search to find sold results. Those are real market numbers, not wishful thinking or trolling for suckers.

PS: The part imperf block with the SON cancel is obviously made for collectors.
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Posted 07/23/2026   07:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is something to help you ,from my collection .
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Posted Yesterday   1:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CMF to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are embossed and pass the uv test also. I have had experts look at them and say they are not fake. I have had experts say that they are fake. So are the fake or real? And I've been on ebay, no one has the exact ones I have, they are different which you know changes everything. So......... I still don't have answers, some of you say fake, some of you say real.
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Posted Yesterday   1:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CMF to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And floor trader, I am trying to get information, can't you see I can't get the same information. And you don't have to be rude
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Posted Yesterday   1:28 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No-one has been rude. Did the Liberian Philatelic Society have any comments? If not, perhaps you need to have a punt on cetification for your peace of mind.
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Posted Yesterday   2:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mikyh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see how anyone would want to fake these rather dreadful looking stamps! They were printed in various shades of green. The various shades including mustard also appear on both Liberia stamp websites with no reference to them being fake.

Do you have any proof please floortrader?

CMF, the block of CTO stamps in sheets are often available on ebay, search for Liberia 1897 sheet. There is one for sale at the moment for $21. OK, yours has a missing column of perfs but as I said Bileski purchased all of Perkins Bacons waste stock so it would be from here so has little monetary value.


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Posted Yesterday   3:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Just because 79 come up. Don't mean it's the one I have, which makes values totally different I've been looking. Can't find them.


While yours in particular may not come up, which I knew, it shows a snapshot of the price range of such Liberia material. They begin at a price of 50 CENTS going up to a mid and upper tens of dollars for high quality inverts. Most sold in the single digit range, without what was right of the decimal point.

Should you pay for a certificate and receive a "genuine in all respects" opinion, you will lose more money if you sell as you will not recoup the cost of the certificate for each item. Why? Demand in this area is thin compared to supply keeping prices quite low and stock retention time quite long.

Now from an EFO production understanding, Liberia as well as some other areas are cheap ways to document what can go wrong in production, even if the particular example were made by design and not accident.

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Posted Yesterday   8:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The imperf between are likely, as expected, some of the many made for collector 'errors' produced. What you can sell them for is based on whether you can find a collector who is specializing on that particular issue. It's not unusual enough to have a big price tag on it. The 22 on $1 example is a listed variety, with a catalog value of a couple of dollars IIRC. The inking is not unusual, they didn't put a lot of effort into making them and it shows with slightly unmixed colors as yours seems to have. It doesn't look to me like the color changes are ffrom fading post printing, but could be.
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* * * The other two threads on the same topic by the OP have been locked by a Moderator so that we can keep all of the relevant comments in one place * * *
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Posted Today  7 Hrs 29 Min ago  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
MIKYH --- All my reference material for Liberia is in storage ,I have not worked on it in the past 15 years .

Too busy with all the material I recently purchased from Kelleher Auction from the"Bud Hennig ,German Inflation Period specialized collection " I hope to have one of the best reference collection outside Germany. All the material that I am working on is spread all over two desks and on the floors around those desk .

This was my fourth time trying to purchase this material in my life . First was when I purchased Bud's German Colonies collection thru Richard Drews 1998 , second time was thru his wife at the Park Forrest Stamp Club . Then after he died thru Ken Martin of the APS when he came to Chicago to pick up Mr and Mrs . Hennig donation to the APS .
This month it was up for auction and it was the last possible chance to get it ,so had to dump my stock holding in Disney stock and out bid others to see this stuff get to be on the floor next to my desk , and it's here now .
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Trading Mickey Mouse for German hyperinflation was NOT on my bingo card.
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