George VI Era Cochin - Mostly Used

Hi Tony

Got this SG120 sheet



Any particular points to search in this ?
Looking forward to your feedback,
Regards
Thomas

Nothing that I know of, Thomas, but as the spelling error occurred in the 3 Pies surcharge, it might just be worthwhile checking every position on the sheet, just to see if another occurred. None is recorded, but you never know!

Hi Thomas

me too from kerala and become a member just now. however your stamp is SG - 79 , perf.11

Hi Thomas
Me too from kerala and my only collection is cochin, travancore and t.c stamps. the stamp which you have posted here is SG79, perf.11

Rgds
George from kerala

Dear Tony/Thomas

Very nice sheet of SG - 120, when I just went through my sheets I found an interesting flaw on postion R - #/5 which is a "connected native caharcters " in the bottom native value tablet.
Dear Tony I was just searching the entrie articles on cochin from ISC and I think nobody had recorded this flaw even Mr.Trowbridge

Im just checking the other variants of this stamp(O83) and hope cpould find this flaw, since my scanner is not in place Request Mr.Thomas to post a close up of R-3/5
Thanks to Thomas for prompting me to do a close study on this sheet

seems to be a nice lot of cochin in ebay

http://cgi.ebay.in/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:LCA:IN:1123

Dear Thomas

I feel the price you have paid for O95 sheet (125pounds) is on a higher side., reason why im saying this I bought a similar sheet in jan2010 from kerala itself for Rs.2800(40 pounds),

Dear Tony

Infact the last Raja stamps alone contribute to a 5 frame exhibit in my collection and its a superb area for study, research and development.I have seen Mr.Thomas had posted a 3Ps carmine stamp of last raja where there is a plate flaw on the last malayalam character and similarly all stamps do carry one or other flaw if studied in detail.
On the CGS overprints SG lists only "C for G" variety but there are other 7 constant varieties which are yet to be chronicled.

wow

Welcome George5379! It's great to find more collectors of Cochin joining in. I hardly thought that this thread would run to 13 pages when I started it.

There are certainly plenty of nice plate flaws in the Sixth Raja stamps in particular. They are a prime candidate for a specialised exhibit. The only question will be whether they're constant (and if so, their sheet positions), and whether they're striking enough to warrant listing in Gibbons (like the tail to turban flaw on the 3 Annas 4 Pies).

I wouldn't be surprised if we reached the stage of, some day, being able to distinguish plating characteristics for every stamp on the sheet, for most of the Sixth Raja values, anyway.

Hello George

Nice to hear from somebody in "God's own country"
And thanks for revitalising the discussions in this thread
It was losing momentum we feel and thanks for jumping in with your observations. Now to your posts .....

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"Me too from kerala and my only collection is cochin, travancore and t.c stamps. the stamp which you have posted here is SG79, perf.11"

I am a little confused - SG79 is Raja 3 right ? - so was not able to pin point which pic you were referring to..

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Next - the SG120 sheet.
Attaching image of R3C5 -

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Then your post "seems to be a nice lot of cochin in ebay"
http://cgi.ebay.in/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:LCA:IN:1123
I had seen it too. Once again somebody from GOC
By the way are the stamps hinged to the album pages ??
Seems well mounted and explained in details.

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"I feel the price you have paid for O95 sheet (125pounds) is on a higher side., reason why im saying this I bought a similar sheet in jan2010 from kerala itself for Rs.2800(40 pounds)"

I am also feeling that way. So now I know whom to buy it from
Hope to meet you in Kerala when I visit next.
I am from Thrissur - settled in Mumbai. But visit Kerala every year - keeping in touch with relatives

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The Raja 6 - 3p carmine stamps - images attached :

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Looking forward to your feedback
Regards and Thanks
Thomas

The deep shade of that 6th Raja 3 Pies seems to be much scarcer than the medium to pale shades - from a check over my copies, anyway. Here it is on a postal stationery cover:



It might be interesting, but very tedious work, to try to pinpoint the dates when these shades were used, and maybe even if they were characteristic of certain post offices.

Dear Tony and Thomas

Thanks a lot for that warm welcome to the forum, on that R-3/5 of SG120 you can see the connected native characters flaw .I have chkd the variants of this stamp and found a used block of four with the same variety on SGO83. since I hardly have any info on pasting images in this forum , Dear Tony Im sending the scan copy to your mail ID to post it here

Rgds
George from kerala

Dear Tony

On to your post on the plating characterischics of Last Raja Im sure that we are having a plate study of 3Ps carmine done by Mr.Trowbridge and Heeley some time back in 1980's.the study goes in detail on 99%(do remember you should have a lakh of stamps atleast to do this tedious job plus no: of full sheets) of the flaws on each positions.I have assembled a collection based on the study coming to some 40 album pages

From my part I have identified some basic flaws of SG-109 and 112 but not able to identify the various states of plate due to lack of material(have examined some 5000 copies of each values and a dozen full sheets).If anybody is interested in plating these stamps I'm happy to share my findings

Rgds
George

Dear Tony

Im sure that each of the flaws are constant on these last raja stamps and the plates(cliches) were never reset as in the case of puttan issues so that their positions remain the same throughout the printings, onlything is that the plates underwent too many reworks/retouches so that you can distinguish different states of a single plate

I dont believe or never dream of a catalogue status of these flaws since SG will not list this and would only say that "these flaws are beyond the scope of our catalogues"

Can I ask you a geniune advice? some of the stamps are marked in SG catalogue with a "dagger" symbol which means that particular stamps never existed in that condition(mint or used)lets take for eg.92c which says it never existed in mint condition. my question is How can SG be sure abt that thhe stamps never existed in such a condition when there are no records available in case of cochin stamps(on 92c I have seen an ad from Sandeep jaiswal on back of an india post saying that a mint copy exists with BPA cert:)

Pls advice ifyou have any infos on the subject