Collecting By Engraver

I have seen very few examples on this thread from Yugoslavian
stamps, engraved and printed locally.

The Yugoslav Post Office contracted out some of the multicolour
stamps such as paintings to the Austrian State Printer
which produced some ugly (my opinion) steel engraved combined with
photogravure printings.

Yet the Yugoslav State Printer in Belgrade had some
excellent engravers and printed some great examples
of predominantly single colour engraved stamps.

The deep lines of the engraver in these two to honour Lenin's birth
jump right out at you.

Yugoslavia
Scott 1021 - 1022

Engraver : Dragisa Andric




Engraver : Velibor Cvetkovic

Lithograving,

the Austrian thread is a good example as it shows that both a collector with not that much knowledge about this particular issue could express his surprise about what he thought was not described yet in the catalogues and the reactions of others - more experienced in Austrian philately - who also came to the conclusion that still after a 70 years some questions are left unanswered and some new questions are to be asked!

groetjes, Rein

P.S.

We love to see our stamps enlarged and nobody complains!

In the German (not Austrian!) fora however they still live in the Usenet Age and refuse to have large images!

They complain about my Bilderorgien (Orgy of images) and refer to them as "XXXXLLL Bilder".

I think that after more than a century of having to suffer the miniature images - in catalogues and other publications - of what the difference in type is supposed to be or how a plate flaw looks like, we should be glad to have the opportunity to watch (details of) our stamps in full or even larger!

Hello I'm John I just started reading this thread got to the tenth page was eager to now what stamps have and have not been put up So I copied all the pictures to Photobucket in country's If its OK I can put them up here with a link
It sort of a put of not knowing.

nethryk - Thanks for showcasing another French artist and engraver, Louis-Norbert Hanniquet, whose distict style apparent in the first two of your images I have not noticed as yet.

As you noted in your post of 05/26/2011 08:27 am on p. 15 of this thread: "I regard engraved postage stamps as individual works of art, and I have come to adopt the viewpoint that each engraver brings something unique to the table to be appreciated in its own right, without comparison to other engravers."

Thank you.

lithograving - Stamp collecting allowing such a variety of pursuits is a wonderful hobby indeed.

However it is engraved stamps only that are in my line, so it is just one of the last four values in the Austrian set I might consider if found to my liking.

Still, I can appreciate what other stamp collectors take a fancy to. So thank you for sharing one of your joys with me. Your pleasure is mine.


For nethryk's posts of images of engraved Yugoslavian stamps on this thread see pp. 64 and 65 (plus his post of 09/13/2012 on p. 11 of the Art & Paintings thread).

Hello, John (biglff),

Welcome to this thread and the much admired images posted here.

As I don't know much about computing I wonder what you propose doing. Do you mean to rearrange the images by country and engraver so as to facilitate retrieval and subject organisation? Actually, we are debating what steps to take in this respect.

Anyhow, I must leave this to people in the know.

With my best wishes to you,

Florian

Hi Florian.

Yes by country so one can look to see if the stamp is already up
Its so good of a topic you want everyone to keep posting and not to be put of
I have a link I'm near sure anyone here can add to it Here is the link click on the arrow at the left side of world engraved stamps it opens up all the country's Have a look and see what you think.
http://s928.photobucket.com/user/bi...ved%20stamps

Biglff

Not all the stamps are up There is only a hand full (Lithograving) has some security on his pictures so all I was able to do there was to picture and copy to paints save fix and crop Only the ones that fitted into the frame well computer screen .
Here is the link to what stamps are up on the topic by country.
Click the arrow on the left of
(world engraved stamps)

http://s928.photobucket.com/user/bi...ved%20stamps

Hi John (biglff)

Nice to see another collector interested in the art of engraved stamps.

I find it amazing that someone who just joined our little group would take it on himself to try and organize
the mess in the 125 pages by showing all the stamps by country on your photobucket account.

But as nethryk never fails to correctly point out, this thread
is called Collecting by Engraver

As you can see on page 47 an attempt was begun mainly by AnthonyUK
to list according to Engravers but obviously the list is far from complete but a very good start
and I'm sure when/if Anthony has more time he might continue with it.

Concerning my pics, when you say

most of my stamps on this thread are in a Public Album (2000 images) accessible to anyone on Photobucket.
A quick look through your Photobucket account shows me that
well over half of the Austrian stamps are my scans.
Same for Czechoslovakia, Sweden,Canada, Denmark,Greenland etc.

I do have some Private albums which have scans of
stamps/covers/ I haven't posted yet.

As I have mentioned before I have no problem with anyone using
scans of my stamps. I only scanned the stamps in my possession,
I don't own the rights to the stamp issued by the relevant
postal authorities.
But at least I want to be credited with the fact that they are
my scans.

There is no such credit given on your photobucket account.
It's as if all those images are your pics or scans.

I forgot to add one more thing John (biglff).

Without any chronological order such as listing by catalogue
number whether Scotts, Michel or SG your rows of stamp
images is not very useful.

I did notice you had Yugoslavia together with Czechoslovakia.
Why? Totally different countries, no connection whatever.

Also you had a few Austrian stamps included with Germany.
Again different countries, well except between 1938 - 1945.

If on a stamp it says Kaiserliche Königliche Österreichische Post,
or DeutschÖsterreich or Österreich or Republik Österreich,
then it is found under Austria not Germany.

Hi lithograving nice to Know you Thanks for so many sleepless and lovely nights Of knowledge on this topic and nethryk and others . It was just a quick reference But its open for any one to alter and fix I'm not that great on world knowledge.
John.

lithograving. I'm sorry about the security thing I did not mean any thing intentionally
it was not what I was referring to.
Thank you biglff

Page 47 Absolutely fantastic stuff AnthonyUK.
Lithograving Yes I jumped ahead only on page 41 and was looking a quick reference before I started putting some up. This is great stuff.
Biglff.

Hi Guys,
Regarding the index, I have given this topic much thought and do not believe it is worth continuing in this form. It is too unwieldy and non-dynamic.
I think there are better formats such as Drew's (StampStudy) Wiki 'Stamps of the World' where every stamp can have a number of searchable terms applied so it is easy to create custom dynamic pages from existing metadata.
e.g. http://www.stampsoftheworld.co.uk/w...=-183&y=-224
Drew has provided instructions and there are already 1000's of images online. The Wiki format means anyone can add/update pages and I'm pretty sure Drew would be open to specific content for us engraver fans.

If anyone would like to continue I'm happy to 'hand over the baton' and provide the index as it stands and info to assist.

biglff - John, would it be possible for you to remove two Yugoslavia stamps from page 2 of Czechoslovakia and place them in the Yugoslavia group ending your list where they in fact belong?

Also, Slovakia deserves a heading of its own and removals of its 6 stamps from page 1, 4 from p. 2, 5 from p. 11 and another 5 from p. 12 of Czechoslovakia stamps.

And the same applies to the Czech Republic stamps: 5 of them on p. 1, 3 on p. 4, 1 on p. 10 and 10 on p. 11 of Czechoslovakia listings.

As for Germany, here the things are more complicated as the status of the country changed in time: you included Bohemia and Moravia (page 3) as well as Generalgouvernement (p. 1) under the Germany heading as occupied territories in view of them being inscribed Grossdeutsches Reich, but Croatia (N.D. Hrvatska on p. 4), although a then-German puppet state (like WWII Slovakia and WWII Serbia) usually appears under its own name in catalogues.

Rearranging the images by engraver and catalogue number, providing them with source identification and instant Stamp by Engraver thread reference would require further improvements, yet you did offer an encouraging prospect for us admirers of this thread through the images with immediate eye appeal.

Thank you for your concentrated effort. Much appreciated.